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MSUsousaphone wrote:
The shittyest thing is that you'll build Waterpilot's most amazing pedal board toanz of all time.....then buy a tube amp and find out they all sound different on it and have to flip out your entire board.

See that's kind of where I'm at too. Everything sounds different through the Tube amp. It's weird. It has less knobs than my GK and I feel that I have to tweak it more to get exactly what I want.

So I've noticed over the last few practices the first chink in the armor of my 1960. I find that it just doesn't like really really hot bass signals, it tends to fart out. I need to keep the volume knobs on my basses turned down a bit to keep it from farting out. If I turn the volume knobs down TOO much, it just sounds boring and weak. But when I find that sweet spot, it sounds like fucking GOLD.

My two basses have different sweet spots, so I don't think a volume knob in a box is gonna cut it. So I think I'm gonna get a limiter pedal, so I can just set it to the output volume level right below that one that farts out my amp. I remember think the LMB-3 was a pretty nice limiter back in the day, anyone else have any others they like? I suppose I can just go ask Cyrus over on TB.

whats wrong with using your volume knob?

Derelict78 wrote:whats wrong with using your volume knob?

Because I don't want to have to hunt around for that sweet spot during songs at gigs. Because while I'm trying to find it, my signal is farting out and sounding bad.

MSUsousaphone wrote:

Waterpilot wrote:Have have a couple of amps that I really like a lot and am working on my pedals but for some reason... I still want a tube amp. The grass is always greener.

The shittyest thing is that you'll build Waterpilot's most amazing pedal board toanz of all time.....then buy a tube amp and find out they all sound different on it and have to flip out your entire board.

Damn, that's a good point. That actually helped my tube GAS as I'm pretty happy with how things are going. 33% again?

I don't think that is totally true about changing the board. On a few pedals it might really make a difference. The biggest change for me was in the OD department. I just wanted a different OD with tubes. Everything else sounded ballsier too me.

good point

The main thing I've found in my switch to a tube amp is that I found that I need all of my modulation and delay to be in the FX loop, because it gets buried a little when coming before the input if you get any dirt from the preamp. So I actually have half of my board running to the input of the amp, and the other half in the amp's FX loop. That may sound like a pain in the ass, but it's just two more cables to run from the amp to the board, like 20 extra seconds of setup.

bigchiefbc wrote:So I've noticed over the last few practices the first chink in the armor of my 1960. I find that it just doesn't like really really hot bass signals, it tends to fart out. I need to keep the volume knobs on my basses turned down a bit to keep it from farting out. If I turn the volume knobs down TOO much, it just sounds boring and weak. But when I find that sweet spot, it sounds like fucking GOLD.

My two basses have different sweet spots, so I don't think a volume knob in a box is gonna cut it. So I think I'm gonna get a limiter pedal, so I can just set it to the output volume level right below that one that farts out my amp. I remember think the LMB-3 was a pretty nice limiter back in the day, anyone else have any others they like? I suppose I can just go ask Cyrus over on TB.

A small mixer would work also, I'd prefer it to limiting for balancing the output of two sources, and you could leave them both plugged in that way.

Waterpilot wrote:

MSUsousaphone wrote:

Waterpilot wrote:Have have a couple of amps that I really like a lot and am working on my pedals but for some reason... I still want a tube amp. The grass is always greener.

The shittyest thing is that you'll build Waterpilot's most amazing pedal board toanz of all time.....then buy a tube amp and find out they all sound different on it and have to flip out your entire board.

Damn, that's a good point. That actually helped my tube GAS as I'm pretty happy with how things are going. 33% again?

Yeah. Good point, Delta. I wouldn't exactly change my Timeline, Goatkeeper or soon to be Faye's Her from an amp change. Just dirt and fuzz....but that IS half of my board. Haha.

Deltaphoenix wrote:I don't think that is totally true about changing the board. On a few pedals it might really make a difference. The biggest change for me was in the OD department. I just wanted a different OD with tubes. Everything else sounded ballsier too me.

MSUsousaphone wrote:Yeah. Good point, Delta. I wouldn't exactly change my Timeline, Goatkeeper or soon to be Faye's Her from an amp change. Just dirt and fuzz....but that IS half of my board. Haha.

I understand. Though, the thought of any changes is a little scary. I don't even play my active BTB anymore because of those differences with pedals. I still have the tube GAS... Just not quite as bad.

Not that I want another tube amp, but someone offered me one plus cash in trade. 1971 traynor yba3? I have noooooooooooo idea about Traynor at all. School me fellas.

DO IT!!!! You can get good tube grind at lower volumes. It does have a good amount of clean headroom but when they start, so sweet. Find out if it is a master or non master volume. I bet it is a master volume one if it is from 1971. I would ask dude about maintenance he did, what tubes are in it. What else is cool is that you can play guitar through these amps too. Traynor is like the Canadian Marshall. If you don't have a lot into it, sounds like a winner.

I,Galactus wrote::animal: !!!SSSTTTRRRAAATTTEEEGGGYYY!!!

A) multi-watt /power soak stuff is awesome for practice and gigging (on my Mark V at least).
2) waranteed so no mainetenance costs (for the first year or so at least)
also) you love mesa toanz, it's got mesa toanz, what's the hold up?

do you have any suggestions for a power soak? My ED130 is awesome but I would like to crank it past 1 maybe once with out shattering my eyeballs.

MaxMaps wrote:

I,Galactus wrote::animal: !!!SSSTTTRRRAAATTTEEEGGGYYY!!!

A) multi-watt /power soak stuff is awesome for practice and gigging (on my Mark V at least).
2) waranteed so no mainetenance costs (for the first year or so at least)
also) you love mesa toanz, it's got mesa toanz, what's the hold up?

do you have any suggestions for a power soak? My ED130 is awesome but I would like to crank it past 1 maybe once with out shattering my eyeballs.

The Weber MASS and THD Hotplates get the best reviews, but they both go for 2-300 bucks, even used. I wasn't willing to put down that sort of scratch, so I went with an old school Tom Scholz Power Soak, which I got on eBay for like 65 bucks. I have yet to have any problem with it, it does exactly what I wanted. It cuts your volume in 3 dB increments all the way down to just a muted load. It does get a bit hot if you run it at a high soak level for a while, but that's normal.