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Re: Gasalcoholics anonymous? whoever said this was a help group?
Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2025 6:34 pm
by Seance
Thanks for the insights/feedback.
I think the WYSIWYG aspect of the Tascam Model 12 is appealing. But then would I be frustrated with the diminutive screen and wonky navigation system required to use the screen?
The Zoom R-20 has a bigger screen... but seems to have fewer surface controls for commonly adjusted parameters.
Ultimately setting up the rhythm track is one of my weaknesses. Perhaps if I got better at it, or got something like EZ-Drummer, then I wouldn't be AS FRUSTRATED with using GarageBand on a computer.
But... I'm not so sure.
So the uncertainty and interlocking unanswered questions keep me from taking a plunge one way or another. I just know that the Zoom H5 and GarageBand options that I already have aren't motivating me to even make rough sketches so I don't forget the parts/pieces that I've come up with.
So something has to change.
Re: Gasalcoholics anonymous? whoever said this was a help group?
Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2025 8:22 pm
by Blackened Soul
I hate programming drums.. I would always end up going down rabbit holes making things more complicated and get more dissatisfied… if ever went down that road again I think I’d want a proper drum machine/ sequencer
Re: Gasalcoholics anonymous? whoever said this was a help group?
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2025 5:52 am
by dubkitty
i learned on my HR-16. after using that tiny interface and only being able to scroll in one direction doing drums in GB was delightfully simple.
Re: Gasalcoholics anonymous? whoever said this was a help group?
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2025 8:50 am
by Gone Fission
Blackened Soul wrote: ↑Thu Jul 03, 2025 8:22 pm
I hate programming drums.. I would always end up going down rabbit holes making things more complicated and get more dissatisfied… if ever went down that road again I think I’d want a proper drum machine/ sequencer
The Beat Buddy drum machine pedals aren’t as cheesy as one might expect. Might be an option for a “here, just do it for me” approach. I don’t know if the deluxe versions do anything other than send audio to record, though.
Re: Gasalcoholics anonymous? whoever said this was a help group?
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2025 9:46 am
by dubkitty
i had some steadfast rules for myself about programming drums, the most important being “don’t write parts a human couldn’t play with four limbs.” that kept me from making my parts too complicated.
Re: Gasalcoholics anonymous? whoever said this was a help group?
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2025 11:07 am
by alexsga
Beat Buddies are made by convicted former arms dealer D. Packouz of AEY/2016 film "War Dogs" fame
Re: Gasalcoholics anonymous? whoever said this was a help group?
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2025 11:09 am
by alexsga
Re: Gasalcoholics anonymous? whoever said this was a help group?
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2025 2:33 pm
by Gone Fission
alexsga wrote: ↑Fri Jul 04, 2025 11:07 am
Beat Buddies are made by convicted former arms dealer D. Packouz of AEY/2016 film "War Dogs" fame
Yikes! Recommendation rescinded.
Re: Gasalcoholics anonymous? whoever said this was a help group?
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2025 2:57 pm
by Seance
Re: Gasalcoholics anonymous? whoever said this was a help group?
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2025 3:19 pm
by Blackened Soul
Comming
I owned one like 8 years ago… time for a second try
Re: Gasalcoholics anonymous? whoever said this was a help group?
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2025 9:23 pm
by alexsga
Gone Fission wrote: ↑Fri Jul 04, 2025 2:33 pm
Yikes! Recommendation rescinded.
but look, its so wholesome with his daughter and everything
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvM2WCYVAQ
Re: Gasalcoholics anonymous? whoever said this was a help group?
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2025 5:43 am
by MechaGodzilla
Re: Gasalcoholics anonymous? whoever said this was a help group?
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2025 9:55 am
by friendship
alexsga wrote: ↑Fri Jul 04, 2025 11:07 am
Beat Buddies are made by convicted former arms dealer D. Packouz of AEY/2016 film "War Dogs" fame
what a fucking world
Re: Gasalcoholics anonymous? whoever said this was a help group?
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2025 12:35 pm
by dubkitty
dubkitty wrote: ↑Fri Jul 04, 2025 9:46 am
that kept me from making my parts too complicated.
but also kept me from being Peter Gabriel
Re: Gasalcoholics anonymous? whoever said this was a help group?
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2025 6:33 pm
by friendship
Seance wrote: ↑Thu Jul 03, 2025 6:34 pm
Thanks for the insights/feedback.
I think the WYSIWYG aspect of the Tascam Model 12 is appealing. But then would I be frustrated with the diminutive screen and wonky navigation system required to use the screen?
The Zoom R-20 has a bigger screen... but seems to have fewer surface controls for commonly adjusted parameters.
Ultimately setting up the rhythm track is one of my weaknesses. Perhaps if I got better at it, or got something like EZ-Drummer, then I wouldn't be AS FRUSTRATED with using GarageBand on a computer.
But... I'm not so sure.
So the uncertainty and interlocking unanswered questions keep me from taking a plunge one way or another. I just know that the Zoom H5 and GarageBand options that I already have aren't motivating me to even make rough sketches so I don't forget the parts/pieces that I've come up with.
So something has to change.
What's your workflow like? How many tracks do you expect to need? Do you expect to be doing a lot of mixing or editing on the device? Do you want it to be able to give you a master bus mixdown, without ever needing to import into a DAW? Does it need to be convenient to travel with? Or another to approach it: what do you wish the H5 could do?
