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Have you checked out the EAE Dagger? The EQ is great with a TON of low end, and that gain goes from light drive to big beefy drive. You could go for a Longsword if you want the additional boost and mids knob.

Blues Driver is also worth owning.

A Greer 390 - pretty much a DOD 250 OD

nogodsnobedtimes wrote:Have you checked out the EAE Dagger? The EQ is great with a TON of low end, and that gain goes from light drive to big beefy drive. You could go for a Longsword if you want the additional boost and mids knob.

Blues Driver is also worth owning.

Have I checked it?? Dude, I've been drooling over all the demo's I could find. Basically nails the gritty-yet-full tone I'm going for. It's one of those unobtanium ones I refered to in my original post though. Non-existing on the local used market, nearly $240 new after shipping & taxes :/

frigid midget wrote: I have one all-purpose crazy loud single channel non MV amp with tons of headroom, so a "useable" overdrive pedal is sort of a necessary evil for me. Right now, I don't have any blooz boomer type dirt pedals to stack with fuzz or whatever. What am I overlooking, what ticks all the boxes and sounds good going into a clean loud vintage style amp? Tgp lurkers can come out and play now

There are a lot of reasons I will of no help on this as what I like ins't cheap or common in any part of the world. One thing is out side of messing around at home I've never used overdrive pedals on guitar. My main thing is bass and on recordings I would run through a marshall JCM800 or a Orange Thunderverb for overdrive.. And in my ENDLESS search for a OD it was the attempt to get the sound of my bass through a Marshall.. I ended up with a Rat in a blend pedal on the last leg of what I was doing Still despite myself I love old funky bluesy guitar tones and playing old crusty tuned down old crusty overdriven guitar stuff.. my amp for this is a Ampeg J12T that I've had since 96 so when I talk ODs that is the amp I have in mind tonally..

Mesa Boogie V-twin: Yes it costs a lot, and they are hard to find, and they are old, and they are HUGE, and they are covered in diamond plate, but, fuck do they sound good.

Tube Driver / Real Tube / Blues Tube: these are great pedals if you want old funky tube amp sounds, a lot of TGP guys battle with these and try to use them as clean boosts and light grit drive, which is fine but it isn't what they do best, what they do best is mid to high gain OD.

Sobat Drive Breaker: think of these as a cleaner, clearer, more articulate rat.

Boss Blues Driver: I've only played one once at a store with a G&L asat and for a moment I sounded like SRV

Wren and Cuff Phat Phuk: it's a one knob boost, but when you use it at unity it adds this wonderful gritty texture, I use it like this on electric cello where I use a EQ pedal to remove all the harsh piezo tones and have the Phuk add in grit to make it sound more "acoustic" again

Old Marshall blues breaker/ drive master: cool funky drives, there are a lot of clones.. JHS has a horrible and annoying video on them..

HAO Rumble Mod: grain boost/low to mid OD, very useful tone knob.

DBA Interstellar Overdriver: I had a custom one of these I got from and then sold back to Ron Now of Bongripper [he missed it and pleaded for it back] that I really liked a lot but never had a use for at the time I had it. Nice and crusty over pushed small amp tones

Rat: ILOVERATS! you can gets lots of sounds by turning the controls this way and that

When Blackened Soul talks pedals, for one take notes and pay attention.....

Sort of getting 250 gas ATM but also realizing with a Boss Bass ODB1 and a Rat I “probably” don’t need one....

retinal orbita wrote:When Blackened Soul talks pedals, for one take notes and pay attention.....

Sort of getting 250 gas ATM but also realizing with a Boss Bass ODB1 and a Rat I “probably” don’t need one....

Wait, there's an odb-1??

No. Just the ODB-3.

Jero wrote:

retinal orbita wrote:When Blackened Soul talks pedals, for one take notes and pay attention.....

Sort of getting 250 gas ATM but also realizing with a Boss Bass ODB1 and a Rat I “probably” don’t need one....

Wait, there's an odb-1??

OD1 > OD2 > ODB3

Dirge Even Anguish? (Harmonic perc type circuit with its own sound.)

friendship wrote:

Mark of the Beast wrote:If you're looking at the OD-3, check out the OD-2/OD-2R. It's got a Turbo Mode that gives it a wider gain range....Plus if you just get a OD-3, you can't get really serious and yell "It's Turbo Time" and start running around the house as fast as you can and jump over the couches...

Not sure that this thread needs to continue considering this conclusive suggestion.

Lol I JUST coincidentally saw the episode your post was referencing and thought I was having a stroke or was lucid dreaming.

Anyway to answer the topic question I use the Pork Loin, which has a fat low end with crisp attack if you crank the preamp blend level. I also love the OD-3 which has more input gain (while porking loiner has more output gain) and sounds fuckin great. But right now I’m obsessed with the Moog MF Drive, which isn’t at all helpful for you. That filter tho...

ODB = old dirty boosterd?

vidret wrote:Black Forest

Black Forest, me too. I found it hard to dial in at first but once i got the hang of it, it's the one.

mathias wrote:Dirge Even Anguish? (Harmonic perc type circuit with its own sound.)

I was going to suggest a harmonic percolator. They ride that line between overdrive and fuzz very well. A Jordan bosstone tends to do the same but goes into fuzz terrority much more easy. I use both often. But Perc FTW

friendship wrote: But right now I’m obsessed with the Moog MF Drive, which isn’t at all helpful for you. That filter tho...

I really need to sort out the resonance mod that is discussed at Muffs. Not sure there’s agreement on how to do it, but the result seems like it should be

Update, just received both the pedals I mensioned earlier...

Damn, I forgot how fun it was to play through a Marshall stack, or even the more manageable emulation of a Marshall stack

For some reason when I buy an old non-boutique pedal online I always kinda expect hiss or noise or bypass problems, or maybe just scratchy pots or wonky input plugs...
But the Shredmaster was flawless in every way. Surprisingly unworthy for shredding btw
The max gain setting is perfect for me, but for all I know mine was modded or badly repaired with different component values or something

The Distortron sounds less like a sauce of overdrive poured over my clean tone, and more like playing through an actual amp. It's a shame I have to pick one and sell the other, this is a really close one for me...

They're roughly the same gain range, neither one's "better" than the other, there's just somewhat differently voiced. The Shredmaster is bulky, but the Distortron has the akward horizontal lay out and limited eq.

I'm going with the Distortron for now. If I sacrifise the Shredmaster, I won't lose any money on the flip. But mostly...when I flicked the "subs" toggle to '3" on the Distortron, I was sold

I think maybe all the dislike online for all that low end in the Zvex bor and the Distortron comes from bedroom players that prefer squeeling leads or bluesy licks that are easy on the ears or something. After years of using Rats and Muffs messing up the frequences in a live context, it's REALLY nice to find something that makes up for all the mid emphesis and fizz.
Or maybe it's just because I'm plugged into a Traynor Bassmaster which -for all I know- handles those lows better and keeps em tighter than your average Vox or Blues Jr does, who knows

So yeah, nothing shocking that'll score me a ton of ilf cred points, not fuzzy, no bias/starve control,...but as far as good miab dirt goes....the Distortron is the shit imo.