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Re: Mountainking Electronics
Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 3:33 am
by Derelict78
How does the Frequency LSD sound on bass...anyone know?
Re: Mountainking Electronics
Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 11:52 am
by Jero
Derelict78 wrote:How does the Frequency LSD sound on bass...anyone know?
Bassist from bardo pond uses one. I have one on the way too, so ill let you know

Re: Mountainking Electronics
Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 4:03 pm
by eatyourguitar
the parallel universe can do this thing where it sounds like an arpegiator. like each note does R 5th octave 5th+octave two-octave until it hits 3 or 4 octaves up and it just fades out. it happens fast like 16th notes. I was talking to collin from exp-anon about it cause I built it and I though it was broken but he said that the real one does the same thing. so I guess its not broken lol.
Re: Mountainking Electronics
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 12:28 am
by StopReferencing
I have a Megalith - I don't find it similar to the Meathead, actually. It's heavier than the Meathead, it's smoother than the Meathead, it's less "fuzzy" than the Meathead, it's bigger than the Meathead. Not much overlap, IMO.

Megalith is a pretty cool pedal - kind of wish it had a knob that would allow it to get spikier somehow. Even with the tone controls dialing the mud out, it's always pretty smooth.
Re: Mountainking Electronics
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 3:14 am
by phantasmagorovich
StopReferencing wrote:I have a Megalith - I don't find it similar to the Meathead, actually. It's heavier than the Meathead, it's smoother than the Meathead, it's less "fuzzy" than the Meathead, it's bigger than the Meathead. Not much overlap, IMO.

Megalith is a pretty cool pedal - kind of wish it had a knob that would allow it to get spikier somehow. Even with the tone controls dialing the mud out, it's always pretty smooth.
+1 absolutely no overlap. Meathead reacts to your tone control and volume knob a lot more than the Megalith (it has to - only one knob.) Also I think it is more versatile. The Meathead plays well with Doomy kinds of playing, but it does not get it as spot on as the Megalith. The Megalith on the other hand is very hard to coax into a different sound, if possible at all. But it is so awesome at Doom that it's just really great fun to play.
Meathead is a Fuzz, it's a good one if your looking for that kind of thing (cleans up, playing dynamics etc.)
Megalith is this super-saturated monster that'll make you sound like playing a synth through three stacked big muffs or something like that.
Re: Mountainking Electronics
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 11:44 am
by Jero
Jero wrote:Derelict78 wrote:How does the Frequency LSD sound on bass...anyone know?
Bassist from bardo pond uses one. I have one on the way too, so ill let you know

Now that I've had it for a bit, Freq lsd is not for me. Sadly I just don't like it. Might be more useful if it had the "freq out" switch; I dunno.
Re: Mountainking Electronics
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 5:23 pm
by univalve
Thanks at StopReferencing and phantasmagorovich for the commentsI Very interesting.

Re: Mountainking Electronics
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 5:28 pm
by phantasmagorovich
I dunno if I'd agree with StopR about the smoothness though. I'd describe the sound as blunt rather than smooth. If most other fuzzes are chainsaws, this one is a leaden club.
Re: Mountainking Electronics
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 5:30 pm
by univalve
Re: Mountainking Electronics
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 5:31 pm
by StopReferencing
phantasmagorovich wrote:I dunno if I'd agree with StopR about the smoothness though. I'd describe the sound as blunt rather than smooth. If most other fuzzes are chainsaws, this one is a leaden club.
Well, it's no Alpha Drive.
Re: Mountainking Electronics
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 5:32 pm
by univalve
StopReferencing wrote:phantasmagorovich wrote:I dunno if I'd agree with StopR about the smoothness though. I'd describe the sound as blunt rather than smooth. If most other fuzzes are chainsaws, this one is a leaden club.
Well, it's no Alpha Drive.

Re: Mountainking Electronics
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:48 am
by grindonomicon
phantasmagorovich wrote:StopReferencing wrote:I have a Megalith - I don't find it similar to the Meathead, actually. It's heavier than the Meathead, it's smoother than the Meathead, it's less "fuzzy" than the Meathead, it's bigger than the Meathead. Not much overlap, IMO.

Megalith is a pretty cool pedal - kind of wish it had a knob that would allow it to get spikier somehow. Even with the tone controls dialing the mud out, it's always pretty smooth.
+1 absolutely no overlap. Meathead reacts to your tone control and volume knob a lot more than the Megalith (it has to - only one knob.) Also I think it is more versatile. The Meathead plays well with Doomy kinds of playing, but it does not get it as spot on as the Megalith. The Megalith on the other hand is very hard to coax into a different sound, if possible at all. But it is so awesome at Doom that it's just really great fun to play.
Meathead is a Fuzz, it's a good one if your looking for that kind of thing (cleans up, playing dynamics etc.)
Megalith is this super-saturated monster that'll make you sound like playing a synth through three stacked big muffs or something like that.
With a Copperhead->meathead dark clone->EQD Monarch, I can get a lot of the less grindy, more smooth-bassy-fudgey sounds of the Megalith... The copperhead will cut down or eliminate the volume roll off-cleanup. The Monarch smooths out the raw meathead fuzz and gives you the pre-amplifier EQ controls, and the gain to fudge out the meathead a bit.
I'd say the three pedals are a lot more versatile, but I'm still hoping I'm first on the next used Megalith to pop up in BST! It is doomfuzz joy in a single pedal. I'd still like to try a Supercollider and a B:Assmaster, cuz I do like the more raw/less smooth sound of a meathead, but the Megalith is awesome. I'm sad I have to send it back Weds!

anyone making a clone yet?

Re: Mountainking Electronics
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:42 pm
by Jero
Don't clone small builders pedals. Just plain dirty.
Re: Mountainking Electronics
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:18 pm
by grindonomicon
Jero wrote:Don't clone small builders pedals. Just plain dirty.
I disagree with that. Seems like most of the pedals ppl are cloning at FSB.org are 'small builders' pedals. While I won't be snapping pics of the Megalith's guts for ppl to clone, I have no problem with people that do. I wouldn't have a meathead pedal if it wasn't for small quality clone builders. And really, what other pedals are worth cloning? Expensive boutique pedals and crazy-priced OOP pedals pretty much top that list cuz there are plenty of people who either can't afford or aren't willing to cough up collector/boutique prices.
While I'm not part of the former group, builders and cloners; I do own one clone pedal, and I fully support ppl who learn how to build whatever kind of pedal they want to learn how to build. Small Builders can charge whatever they like for a pedal, but when someone can build a pedal of pretty much equal parts + quality for 25-50% of the price, and make a profit doing it, there's going to be a market for clones.
Re: Mountainking Electronics
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:45 pm
by phantasmagorovich
I agree with Jero.
It's alright to clone OOP or discontinued stuff and you can charge whatever you want for that. Just like D*A*M does. afaik the Meathead is a Jennings Fuzz with a different input cap. All of their other stuff is high quality clones as well, am I right? It does get right into the grey zone here. Is it OK to clone something that is a clone in itself but modified? Where is the line that separates clone from original? It is arguable that a mere input cap change does not make a circuit original. But then what about clipping diodes? Both are minor tweaks but could change the sound drastically. If you replace a resistor with a pot?
I myself would also exclude D*A*M clones and mass produced stuff (Fuzz Factory f.ex.). All I'd ever have cloned or buy cloned is either heavily modified or vintage OOP stuff. It's different when I try my hand at soldering myself though. I'd try to build anything for myself but I wouldn't sell it. I have now bought an original Meathead because I was lucky enough to have some extra money at hand when they hit downstroke music. Maybe some day the same thing will happen with a Fuzz Factory.
I am fairly certain that Alan's stuff is pretty original, so it would definitely be evil to clone that.