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As a hipster millennial, Muff Wiggler can go fuck itself 85% of the time.

popvulture wrote:To be fair, a lot of the guys on Muffs literally are grumpy old men.

Fuck. I guess I have to go modular and hang there, then.

I'll pop back around to tell you whippersnappers to get off my lawn.

Only old men can afford modular. I want one soooo bad but I feel like a house to own would be nice as well so I think that comes first for me.

Funny, I mostly break Muffs down by the subforum.
5U = older dudes that love 70s prog
Serge/Buchla = more avant-garde/experimental. Into discussing technique, etc
Euro = rate my rack, what module should I get next, ZOMG NEW MODULE!

Moog is obviously really associated most closely with 5u since it is the classic east coast modular and then the Minimoog. So, I think Moog threads will invite a ton of association of their past which may invite reluctance to change for folks that grew up with Moore or used them 40 years or whatever.

Really, overall, I think Muffs and ILF are more closely related than ILF is to TGP/TB/other forums. There are quite a few folks looking to do their own thing musically by their own rules. Both are more loosely moderated. I prefer to hang-out around ILF and learn about synthesis on Muffs.

So this video may have just totally sold me on the Grandmother:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYsA52H-qgQ[/youtube]
Feeding the wet output from the reverb back into the pitch of the oscillator was awesome. And the CV out for the keyboard velocity seems super useful

i keep looking at the grandmother and wondering if its worth selling a guitar for.

AZX309 wrote:i keep looking at the grandmother and wondering if its worth selling a guitar for.

Do you have any synths yet? It seems like an awesome starter synth, but then so does the Korg MS20 for noticably less $$$

Deltaphoenix wrote:Funny, I mostly break Muffs down by the subforum.
5U = older dudes that love 70s prog
Serge/Buchla = more avant-garde/experimental. Into discussing technique, etc
Euro = rate my rack, what module should I get next, ZOMG NEW MODULE!

Moog is obviously really associated most closely with 5u since it is the classic east coast modular and then the Minimoog. So, I think Moog threads will invite a ton of association of their past which may invite reluctance to change for folks that grew up with Moore or used them 40 years or whatever.

Really, overall, I think Muffs and ILF are more closely related than ILF is to TGP/TB/other forums. There are quite a few folks looking to do their own thing musically by their own rules. Both are more loosely moderated. I prefer to hang-out around ILF and learn about synthesis on Muffs.

Mostly, I really agree with you on this. But in terms of community attitude, I feel like Muffs is almost the exact average of ILF and TGP, because it has a real blend of pretentious older guys and of people doing their own thing musically. As a forum, its a lot closer to ILF though.

Hey! I'm pretentious and young.

ish.

AZX, do it. This looks like a great starter synth.

If i was less attached to my guitars it would be an option. Some good old fashioned saving will have to be in order.

i have been thinking about getting into modular with the caveat that i have to build everything myself. i imagine most the basics are DIYable.

Build an old moog modular system. All the circuits are online and powerssupply info, etc

If you're capable with a soldering iron, you should definitely be able to recreate most of the Grandmother's sub-modules – especially if you're fine using other people's PCB's. Manhattan Analog makes a PCB of the CP3 mixer, for example, that's just a breeze to put together. Pair that with a Ladder Filter replica (there's tons of PCB's for that), and you'll get a Moog sound using almost any oscillators.

Euro cases are always expensive, DIY or not, so to get something similar to the Grandmother you'll end up spending more than $900 over time. But that's the beauty of modular, you don't need to make it sound like anything that exists!

Okay I want one now.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-13wvGTmanY[/youtube]

EDIT: there we go

the fucking reverb on this fucking thing sounds good.

The grandmother is badass. I really hate that I want one after I kept telling myself no but it does just have such a cool character. Plus it's quite affordable for a moog.

Pair with a behringer D for some extra oscillators and a LFO and we really are in the golden age of synths. It can only get better from here right?

D Rock wrote:The grandmother is badass. I really hate that I want one after I kept telling myself no but it does just have such a cool character. Plus it's quite affordable for a moog.

Pair with a behringer D for some extra oscillators and a LFO and we really are in the golden age of synths. It can only get better from here right?

Yeah. Cost on this thing is pretty out of this world.