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Re: Super ultra high gain distortion like DOD Death Metal
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 6:13 pm
by K2000
For high gain fuzz, the Mid-Fi Fuzz Wall.
This seems to be a metal chug, palm muting thread though? If so, the Zoom Tr-Metal was the best one I tried.
Re: Super ultra high gain distortion like DOD Death Metal
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 7:01 pm
by retinal orbita
Metal chug palm muting?!?!
[takes off glove and slaps you in the face with it]
How dare you SIR!!
Re: Super ultra high gain distortion like DOD Death Metal
Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 7:59 am
by Kacey Y
You should never mute a chainsaw with your palm.
Re: Super ultra high gain distortion like DOD Death Metal
Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 8:03 am
by BLOOD EAGLE
Dandolin wrote:Haha--I had one of those for...ever

Got rid of it because I was too deep into ILFdirt and was never using the thing anymore. Yes to tons of gain, some interesting eq profiles (a couple pretty fonky).... I had a lot of fun with it before I "knew better." One thing I really like about it was it imparted this kind of phasey chewiness I associate with 4x12 cabs to my 2x10 Peavey Delta Blues....

i’m going to go on the record...
zoom has made some fairly decent stuff over the years that people dismiss as garbage, because zoom.
Re: Super ultra high gain distortion like DOD Death Metal
Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 10:38 am
by Jero
BLOOD EAGLE wrote:Dandolin wrote:Haha--I had one of those for...ever

Got rid of it because I was too deep into ILFdirt and was never using the thing anymore. Yes to tons of gain, some interesting eq profiles (a couple pretty fonky).... I had a lot of fun with it before I "knew better." One thing I really like about it was it imparted this kind of phasey chewiness I associate with 4x12 cabs to my 2x10 Peavey Delta Blues....

i’m going to go on the record...
zoom has made some fairly decent stuff over the years that people dismiss as garbage, because zoom.
I'm still fairly new to the zoom box, but I dig it. I think I could mimic, within reason, a couple dirt pedals with that one. Extreme filters. And the non plastic zoom pedals of the time seem good. People bring up the tri metal and ultra fuzz a lot. I have one of the modern cheap plastic multi effect looper doo-dads and it's actually not bad at all.
Re: Super ultra high gain distortion like DOD Death Metal
Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 11:57 am
by BetterOffShred
Zoom zoom
Re: Super ultra high gain distortion like DOD Death Metal
Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 1:34 pm
by D.o.S.
retinal orbita wrote:Metal chug palm muting?!?!
[takes off glove and slaps you in the face with it]
How dare you SIR!!
I REMEMBER WHEN YOU HAD A ROB HALFORD AVATAR!
Re: Super ultra high gain distortion like DOD Death Metal
Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 3:19 pm
by Circuithead
Two things might help with your current rig.
Chain your DODs as intended and put the HM-2 first, as a boost, as intended in your OP.
How much distortion are you putting on the hm-2 when you use it for boost?
A touch of dist knob could send out a lot of body parts through that wood chipper DOD chain.
Also this will seem weird but I've had disgusting results with my HM-2 by rolling down the high knob (when the pedal is dimed, but might still work when using it for boost) on the HM-2 until the proprietary harsh hissy noise is gone and then some more until it sounds slightly muddled (which I can even appreciate), and then digging the muffled highs back out using the rest of the gear sitting later in the chain. It sounds sort of like the classic scooped slam tone, but with that HM-2 flavor.
Re: Super ultra high gain distortion like DOD Death Metal
Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 6:48 pm
by gnomethrone
https://youtu.be/BxI_1yaecg8
I just got a mxr 5150 and it's pretty gnarly. Im not interested in sounding like van halen but I saw that the guitar player from integrity used one on the last record and is using it live. its got soooo much gain and the built in noise gate is really handy and not obtrusive. Im using it for the metal chug palm muting tho
That YouTube link is a bass demo but I'm on mobile so you're just gonna have to click and trust that its not rick astley.
Re: Super ultra high gain distortion like DOD Death Metal
Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 6:56 pm
by retinal orbita
Circuithead wrote:Two things might help with your current rig.
Chain your DODs as intended and put the HM-2 first, as a boost, as intended in your OP.
How much distortion are you putting on the hm-2 when you use it for boost?
A touch of dist knob could send out a lot of body parts through that wood chipper DOD chain.
Also this will seem weird but I've had disgusting results with my HM-2 by rolling down the high knob (when the pedal is dimed, but might still work when using it for boost) on the HM-2 until the proprietary harsh hissy noise is gone and then some more until it sounds slightly muddled (which I can even appreciate), and then digging the muffled highs back out using the rest of the gear sitting later in the chain. It sounds sort of like the classic scooped slam tone, but with that HM-2 flavor.
Lovely post!! Where I come from (Canada) an HM-2 gain knob is either at 10 or your mates are hucking it in the trash can (AKA the poser pit) and if you’re lucky you don’t get thrown in as well. I do love using the tone knobs on both the DOD DM and the HM-2, I want a real low tone almost all the time so I usually dime the low and zero the high, same with one DOD, the other I crank the mids and high for “solos” and running it through a ring modulator or two and a Gristlizer. That seems to sound “better”.
I guess this just shows I need to keep buying DOD Death Metals whenever I see them. The Metal Zone doesn’t have what I’m looking for, even with perhaps a more “versatile” EQ. Anyway, I’ve got two out for repair and two working so if I get two more I’ll be in a comfort zone.
Re: Super ultra high gain distortion like DOD Death Metal
Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 7:16 pm
by rfurtkamp
Heh, I'm one of the heretics who has kept it NOT dimed since I first started using them back in the late 80s!
Re: Super ultra high gain distortion like DOD Death Metal
Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 8:49 pm
by Circuithead
retinal orbita wrote:
Lovely post!! Where I come from (Canada) an HM-2 gain knob is either at 10 or your mates are hucking it in the trash can (AKA the poser pit) and if you’re lucky you don’t get thrown in as well. I do love using the tone knobs on both the DOD DM and the HM-2, I want a real low tone almost all the time so I usually dime the low and zero the high, same with one DOD, the other I crank the mids and high for “solos” and running it through a ring modulator or two and a Gristlizer. That seems to sound “better”.
I guess this just shows I need to keep buying DOD Death Metals whenever I see them. The Metal Zone doesn’t have what I’m looking for, even with perhaps a more “versatile” EQ. Anyway, I’ve got two out for repair and two working so if I get two more I’ll be in a comfort zone.
Fellow canadian who likes dirty ass tones that's what's up.
I haven't used my HM-2 that much actually, as I'd like to focus on it later, but for 50$ two years ago I couldn't pass it up. David Gilmour and frigging My Bloody Valentine used them so it'd be a shame to play it only one way. My two main tones I use right now are a beefy fuzz with a lot of mid and a rockier tone that decays and grumbles nicely between chugs when I palm mute.
I dicked around with slam tones but they're hard to mix in the kind of thing I do so I switched to more workable tones while I get better.
Got anything recorded? let's hear that shit
Re: Super ultra high gain distortion like DOD Death Metal
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 9:56 am
by Gone Fission
I gotta say, I really like low to mid-gain HM-2. It's probably mainly about being to push up that low eq band--it's just right for some old indie rock sounds.
I gotta get around to doing some Boneshaker clipping mods--HM-2-ish with the series diodes would require a cut, but IC Muff mimicry seems possible just by removing a feedback resistor [oh, and yanking the hard clippers] and adding a small daughter board. What I really want to find is a good place to add a voltage starve.
Re: Super ultra high gain distortion like DOD Death Metal
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 2:49 pm
by Dandolin
Corey Y wrote:You should never mute a chainsaw with your palm.
Sticky this somewhere prominent. Where's the ILF break room?
Needs a Fallout-style sign for the safety tip look
Re: Super ultra high gain distortion like DOD Death Metal
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 6:25 pm
by Mudfuzz
Dandolin wrote:break room?
The break room was cool before they changed the name of the place to chop suey.. it's also the reason I will never ever ever drink Rainier Beer ever again.