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Re: Questionable effects choices by players that you dig

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:07 pm
by $harkToootth
Could be wrong, but diving into this further, I usually find the melodic content questionable and not so much the effect (mostly in guitar solos to be honest). So I think whammys and wahs get a bad rep because - the source material isn't there :idk: .

I sometimes have the suspicion that extended range instruments get a bad rep for a derivative of that same reason (I think more people would find them useful if they didn't feel compelled to play the genres associated with them). My "nice" guitar is a 9 String and I can tell you...for every "song" :lol: I write...I NEVER use all the strings. I sort of use the top ones so that I don't have to change tunings on my other instruments. Trust me, not playing djent and melodic death core over here :lol: . That said, nothing against those genres and nothing against people that utilize all the strings (in fact the opposite, nothing but praise on my end).

Re: Questionable effects choices by players that you dig

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:15 pm
by $harkToootth
^^^That was a VERY wordy way of saying what jwar said earlier...sorry...I'm an idiot.

Re: Questionable effects choices by players that you dig

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 6:20 pm
by rustywire
Urite tho :idk:

Re: Questionable effects choices by players that you dig

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 6:53 pm
by MechaGodzilla
I like a wah into a wet delay with lots of repeats. Far out man.

Re: Questionable effects choices by players that you dig

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 8:20 pm
by Fuzz_Pi
MechaGodzilla wrote:I like a wah into a wet delay with lots of repeats. Far out man.
This makes me think of Boris.

Re: Questionable effects choices by players that you dig

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:37 am
by VREEEEVROOOOOW
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSMPzO7MccE[/youtube]

First time I heard this it made me confused.
Next time it made me a bit upset—"why would he do this? The cover could have been so good!"
Then I just thought it was kind of funny.
Finally I found acceptance in its awesomeness.
Now I wouldn't have it any other way.

Re: Questionable effects choices by players that you dig

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:56 am
by dozicusmaximus
:hug:
To all my wah lovers.
Seriously though. Wah, phaser, fuzz, and delay are staples in psych rock. It's fucking awesome.
I get it though. Everyone has different ears.

Also Justin Broadrick has been using an 8 string for 10 years I think? Ambient shimmer intro and dekka-doo-daa(djent) aren't the only things you can do with it.

Re: Questionable effects choices by players that you dig

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 12:30 pm
by ibarakishi
i understand the wah hate, but all i have to think of is boris and everything is okay again in my mind. not many other people i can think of use it in a way that i like, and usually when i like it is being used with tons of gain, fuzz, feedback, and general wailing and roaring guitar rather than actual pristine notes.

a side note, i have a habit of acquiring things that at first try seem terrible to use and that i would never buy myself, but later can use in a way that actually makes sense for what i record. It really makes me question my own effect choices in a lot of ways, along with recording in general

Re: Questionable effects choices by players that you dig

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 12:39 pm
by Zounds Perspex
also in support of fixed wah - Mick Ronson. Cocked Jen wah into a MKI Tone Bender is KILLER.

I don't need to ever heard waka-waka type funk wah again, but Leo Nocentelli uses it in great funky way.

I'm going to think more about the questionable effect choices, though.

Re: Questionable effects choices by players that you dig

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 1:08 pm
by repoman
Does anyone have any instances of Univibe not used in bloozwanking hendrixisms? I really want to like Univibes but they always give me that vibe when I hear them. I put them in the same category as wah.

Re: Questionable effects choices by players that you dig

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 1:58 pm
by Gone Fission
It's not that I hate wah, just bad and/or boring use of it. See auto wah; see, also, envelope filter.

Love good wah. I find I rarely use mine, likely because of the standards I place on its use. I used to use it heavily, and pretty well, but I'm really out of practice and it is almost its own instrument so that doesn't fly.

Re: Questionable effects choices by players that you dig

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:07 pm
by WORMDIRT
VREEEEVROOOOOW wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSMPzO7MccE[/youtube]

First time I heard this it made me confused.
Next time it made me a bit upset—"why would he do this? The cover could have been so good!"
Then I just thought it was kind of funny.
Finally I found acceptance in its awesomeness.
Now I wouldn't have it any other way.
5 stages of grief

Re: Questionable effects choices by players that you dig

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:17 pm
by Chankgeez
Zounds Perspex wrote:
I don't need to ever heard waka-waka type funk wah again, but Leo Nocentelli uses it in great funky way.
I'd've been happier though if leo Nocentelli never tried to play jazz.

Not a questionable effects choice, but a seriously questionable stylistic choice there. :grumpy:

Re: Questionable effects choices by players that you dig

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:53 pm
by MechaGodzilla
repoman wrote:Does anyone have any instances of Univibe not used in bloozwanking hendrixisms? I really want to like Univibes but they always give me that vibe when I hear them. I put them in the same category as wah.
I like how Doyle Bramhall II uses vibe as part of his core rhythm sound, it takes what could sound like unimaginative bloozrok and makes it sound more considered and soul-y. However, I feel like he might fall into the Hendrixism category too much for you.

Re: Questionable effects choices by players that you dig

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 3:45 pm
by phantasmagorovich
Stooges!
/wah discussion.



I tend to not think about gear "famous" players use. But oftentimes I don't like people's fuzz/distortion/drive tones, because I think that something could be so much harsher with a different effect. But that is probably my stylistic preference for the Clang Toanz and/or gated fuzz.