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Re: Fast or slow dirt, what do you prefer?

Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 4:47 pm
by new05002
BossMann73 wrote:
Mosfed wrote:
BossMann73 wrote:
Mosfed wrote:
BossMann73 wrote:
Mosfed wrote:Never thought about it that way but from your list, I seem to greatly prefer slow. Nothing in the fast list does anything for me.
It's probably all dependent on the music one is making. My Dunwiches work best for slower doomy parts but not for where I need more precise articulation. But overall I am writing music that requires precise attack so my BBR or Darkglass get turned on the most. Would you classify your music as needing more articulation or more squish to use these two general words? If both, what pedals do you turn on for what you need vis a vis attack?
I don't know - I guess I really never thought about it that way. I think about attack with filters or compressors etc but never really with dirt. If I think about it, usually if I am going for something heavier in our sound (Fuzz and heavy distortion are probably only on for about 10-15% of our songs, light/touch sensitive overdrive is much more my thing) I go for a creamier, richer, muff like fuzz over a faster attack fy-2 more buzz fuzz. Not that I don't like the other but I use it way way way less.

My favorite overdrive is the Dunwich Volt Thrower (not the VT125B but the stock). And I have had other great experience with RAT type circuits with no clipping options.
Cool. Well from what I am gleaning you use both fast and slow as part of your sound although you may not have thought explicitly about it. And clearly one thing we do have in common is the experience with RAT's. Out of all the circuits I like them the best in terms of sheer tone, but on my VT for instance I need to keep it on no clipping for best attack. Seems like Dunwich in general favors a slower attack. But I could easily use my Landphil as the only distortion on my board since it covers so many areas I like (low gain preamp sound and super high gain dirt). Gets a little too mushy for me at high gain settings, but I never actually use that in the real world. I generally keep that pedals DIST knob at no higher than like 11 o clock, which is where I find it's sweet spot to be between low and higher gain.
You should try the stock Volt Thrower. They sound very different than the VT125B (partially my fault for suggesting the stupid mids dial) and they are the best RAT interpretation that I have tried.

You are right - I never really thought about it. To be honest, I think I like dirt that keeps my natural attack. I am thinking that for all these years when I have been searching for transparent dirt that didn't fundamentally change my inherent tone, it was really my attack that I was trying to match.

Pretty psyched for new Broughton overdrive.
I am very happy that a thread occurred where there is no animosity and especially happy that this thread was one you found useful.

Regarding the VT though, I'll probably be waiting for a used one to pop up. Funny how the VT125B run ended up as kind of a bust (I say this because I've seen several for sale already not because I don't like my personal one). How do you think the mids dial affected the pedal?

Anyhow, very cool post and I hope the Broughton works out. I made an offer on an Azure Drive on Reverb yesterday, but the seller declined. That thing has some serious attack.
Generally made it darker then the original and you cant dial it all out so for those who are used to the original it always feels a bit darker.

Easy enough to modify out if requested.

Re: Fast or slow dirt, what do you prefer?

Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:57 pm
by nshuman
I liked the VT125B. here was nothing wrong with it. Someone at TB was interested in it and, honestly, the VT125B made me realize that I liked the VT, I loved all the clipping options, and I was fine with the size. The 125B is darker, but not in a bad way. It came down to a personal preference for me. They both rock.

Re: Fast or slow dirt, what do you prefer?

Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 5:00 am
by Mosfed
nshuman wrote:I liked the VT125B. here was nothing wrong with it. Someone at TB was interested in it and, honestly, the VT125B made me realize that I liked the VT, I loved all the clipping options, and I was fine with the size. The 125B is darker, but not in a bad way. It came down to a personal preference for me. They both rock.
I can't wait to hear the modded version. Really psyched for that one. I wanted that EXACT VT sound and that's not what the VT125B was. Doesn't mean that it wasn't great as it's own thing though.

Re: Fast or slow dirt, what do you prefer?

Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:47 am
by BossMann73
Mosfed wrote:
nshuman wrote:I liked the VT125B. here was nothing wrong with it. Someone at TB was interested in it and, honestly, the VT125B made me realize that I liked the VT, I loved all the clipping options, and I was fine with the size. The 125B is darker, but not in a bad way. It came down to a personal preference for me. They both rock.
I can't wait to hear the modded version. Really psyched for that one. I wanted that EXACT VT sound and that's not what the VT125B was. Doesn't mean that it wasn't great as it's own thing though.
Although my VT125B doesn't have quite the gain I thought it would, I really love the round sound it gives me. I chose Schottky and Hi LED but I prefer the clip switch in the middle to both of those. Less compression and more of an open sound. Just nowhere near the gain I like, so when I use it I pair it with my Mini 66 goosing it a little and the combo is heavenly. Actually the Mini 66 on it's own is quite anemic, but before or after another dirt it adds a brilliant sheen to the sound that I love. Was selling it, but decided to keep it strictly for the way it stacks.