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The SA Ventris will have reverse. I'll be beta testing this pedal and they're actually asking me right now to name some good reverse reverb pedals for them to check out. Empress is my favorite and i was going to mention RV-7 and Cathedral just because i've used them and they're not bad.

BUT... here's our chance! What would you like to see out of a reverse reverb? Let me know and i'll pass along the requests.

I know for me i just want full control over the pre-delay and i want it to be LONG and preferably able to set with a tap tempo so it almost acts as a one hit delay but this way i can do some really interesting stuff with timing on a song. Of course, the opposite of that where it reverses as soon as the note stops. It would also be cool if there was a momentary feature to where you could hold a footswitch down to select or record the portion you want reversed and it could maybe repeat depending on the decay setting. Or vice versa where while the footswitch is pushed down it's only doing reverse during that but has a regular reverb going on the rest of the time.

Any other suggestions or ideas?

Ruiner wrote:The SA Ventris will have reverse. I'll be beta testing this pedal and they're actually asking me right now to name some good reverse reverb pedals for them to check out. Empress is my favorite and i was going to mention RV-7 and Cathedral just because i've used them and they're not bad.

BUT... here's our chance! What would you like to see out of a reverse reverb? Let me know and i'll pass along the requests.

I know for me i just want full control over the pre-delay and i want it to be LONG and preferably able to set with a tap tempo so it almost acts as a one hit delay but this way i can do some really interesting stuff with timing on a song. Of course, the opposite of that where it reverses as soon as the note stops. It would also be cool if there was a momentary feature to where you could hold a footswitch down to select or record the portion you want reversed and it could maybe repeat depending on the decay setting. Or vice versa where while the footswitch is pushed down it's only doing reverse during that but has a regular reverb going on the rest of the time.

Any other suggestions or ideas?

YES! and then we can use the app to create our own setting?

and yes, momentary settings would be awesome. the limitation on the cathedral as I hear it, been wanting one, is that on infinite with the momentary the reverb goes away. a ramp setting would be cool too, maybe tied to one or more knobs? the reverse on the hazarai delay is really cool how you can sample when holding the momentary switch and it replays backwards when you let go. a lot of people still say this is the most natural way to do it? dunno, but it's cool and with multi-tap, it's the reason I still have it. plus it get weird. really weird.

and side question. does the nemesis do the multi-tap thing?

I'll add the comments about momentary and ramping when i discuss it with them.

As far as multi-tap... i'm assuming you're talking about creating a pattern by tapping it out, yes? If so, I don't THINK the Nemesis comes with that.... now there's tons of user presets so i don't know if someone has created that yet or if it can be created with their app... so, not sure. I know the new Empress delay will have a multi-tap feature.

Variable decay and tone are the biggest things to get it sounding good RV-7 has that in spades. If it can minimise the amount it swallows up modulated inputs (like being fed phasers, vibratos, filter sweeps etc) as well that'd be great. Oh and TRUE STEREO. Not a mono mixdown like the RV-7. I.E. If my right and left inputs are different, they should remain as such on their relative sides of the stereo field with a little crosstalk obviously, I mean it is reverb. I know this is difficult as it's kind of a triggered effect, but use two reverb engines? IDK.

Ruiner wrote:I'll add the comments about momentary and ramping when i discuss it with them.

As far as multi-tap... i'm assuming you're talking about creating a pattern by tapping it out, yes? If so, I don't THINK the Nemesis comes with that.... now there's tons of user presets so i don't know if someone has created that yet or if it can be created with their app... so, not sure. I know the new Empress delay will have a multi-tap feature.

cool. I'm definitely looking to these new source audio pedals to be mainstays on my board. not a fan of strymon that much, they're great. but I'm not a fan of line 6 either. so...
well the smmh has a multi-tap feature that you set the number of repeats with a knob parameter. you can tap it out too I guess. it's pretty far-out and I guess not many delays do it sadly.

chrisdermo wrote:Oh and TRUE STEREO. Not a mono mixdown like the RV-7. I.E. If my right and left inputs are different, they should remain as such on their relative sides of the stereo field with a little crosstalk obviously, I mean it is reverb.

I agree, true stereo, but I'm sorry, I feel I must correct you as the RV-7 is true stereo. I used two of them (before the polara) to go to four amps and each side most definitely operated independently. If I had a phaser going to one side and distortion going to the other, they came out the other side still separated. Sorry to pick nits!

I'm very fond of the RV-7/Polara reverse reverb so from my standpoint, I'm not sure what SA can do to improve on it but one thing I would like to have in the same pedal is more of a reverse gate sound, something that is a little less washy, as a separate flavor.

Watching this now:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34IFjjBS67M[/youtube]
That's pretty impressive.

manymanyhaha wrote:

chrisdermo wrote:Oh and TRUE STEREO. Not a mono mixdown like the RV-7. I.E. If my right and left inputs are different, they should remain as such on their relative sides of the stereo field with a little crosstalk obviously, I mean it is reverb.

I agree, true stereo, but I'm sorry, I feel I must correct you as the RV-7 is true stereo. I used two of them (before the polara) to go to four amps and each side most definitely operated independently. If I had a phaser going to one side and distortion going to the other, they came out the other side still separated. Sorry to pick nits!

This is true of bypass and every algo except reverse...... unless my RV7 is broken just for that setting!
It's quite possible I'm doing something really dumb in my setup. Will have to check over this tonight. I hope what you say is true I'll totally blow my load.

chrisdermo wrote:

manymanyhaha wrote:

chrisdermo wrote:Oh and TRUE STEREO. Not a mono mixdown like the RV-7. I.E. If my right and left inputs are different, they should remain as such on their relative sides of the stereo field with a little crosstalk obviously, I mean it is reverb.

I agree, true stereo, but I'm sorry, I feel I must correct you as the RV-7 is true stereo. I used two of them (before the polara) to go to four amps and each side most definitely operated independently. If I had a phaser going to one side and distortion going to the other, they came out the other side still separated. Sorry to pick nits!

This is true of bypass and every algo except reverse...... unless my RV7 is broken just for that setting!
It's quite possible I'm doing something really dumb in my setup. Will have to check over this tonight. I hope what you say is true I'll totally blow my load.

Yep just checked feeding two completely different signals in to each input, every algo retains stereo field EXCEPT reverse which sums to mono.

Anyone else got an RV-7 they can test out the stereo on reverse algo with? I'm super curious now.

I believe I still have one around but all my stuff is torn apart while I am moving studios and getting my loop switchers updated (it's taken 3.5 months so far, I love the UK but have come to loathe the Royal Mail, long story. Short version is it appears they lost them, grrrrrr).

But first chance I get, I promise to check this. Who knows, maybe I am totally mistaken!

One thing I do remember is that I had each side hooked up to loop switchers and that one could have either side playing with the other side loop switched off. Also if I had either channel muted (before the loop switcher) but both sides of the RV-7 on for some reason, it would only play through the side that the channel wasn't muted, and not output it to the other side, kind of a hallmark of True Stereo. If that makes sense.

But maybe my memory is totally wrong, I did recently break my foot and elbow, maybe I broke my memory too

manymanyhaha wrote: One thing I do remember is that I had each side hooked up to loop switchers and that one could have either side playing with the other side loop switched off. Also if I had either channel muted (before the loop switcher) but both sides of the RV-7 on for some reason, it would only play through the side that the channel wasn't muted, and not output it to the other side, kind of a hallmark of True Stereo. If that makes sense.

This is literally the complete opposite of how mine works on the reverse setting. On 'gate' it works which also pulls off a pseudo Kevin Shields effect, but not reverse. If use my loop switch to mute the right input, the left input is centred and reverb comes from both outputs.

penelope tree wrote:The Zoom Multistomp CDR is pretty small and has a reverse reverb. I believe it is based on the RV-7's effect but it is possible to set it with the original signal completely eliminated.

I don't get the eternal love for the Digiverb; the volume drop makes it almost unusable in my experience.

any news on the source audio reverb?