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D.o.S. wrote:So really you're looking for albums with a string of songs featuring the same unusual nouns.
As per usual, I can never tell how pedantic and snarky you're actually being, but you know that there's more to The Hold Steady than this, yes?
Yeah I like their first three records a lot, but a lot of the 'concept' therein is in PR and how the record is sold to you. The songs would be the same if Craig Finn diversified his male and female nouns to the point where they didn't repeat. Like, you could make the same argument about Aerosmith if they only wrote about Janie, to use the first example that comes to mind. Obviously there's a reason behind writing those songs the way they do (no idea if that's still THS's M.O.), but lyrically they're mining the same Lifter Puller territory and just using Name X instead of "he or She"
Okay, I see what you're saying. I never saw that as a bad thing. Yes, the narrative involving Charlemagne, Holly, Gideon, et al., is a loose one. Holly is the only character who really gets fleshed out, mostly on Separation Sunday. And any given song functions both within the narrative and as itself. Some of them ("Stay Positive") work as singles, even, divorced from the rest of it. I always thought that was a strength of the writing, less of a copout. A way better example than Aerosmith would be if Bruce Springsteen had written all his working-class angst songs about the same handful of characters. (Honestly, I think that's sort of what THS are doing. They are openly admirers of The Boss.)

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Would Sufjan Steven's Carrie and Lowell count as a concept album?
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Inconuucl wrote:Would Sufjan Steven's Carrie and Lowell count as a concept album?
Absolutely. And a pretty well-executed one at that.

Actually, I think the majority of his albums count.

The 50 States Project, aborted though it ended up being, was a pretty high concept, and for those two records, he pulled it off flawlessly, I'd say. (Just sad he never did New Jersey... would've been epic! Maybe he figured it's already been covered.)

TBH? Carrie & Lowell is my favourite Sufjan album. Hits me right in dem feels
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Dude your new jersey boner is easily the most hilariously endearing thing about you.
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D.o.S. wrote:Dude your new jersey boner is easily the most hilariously endearing thing about you.
Ranking of states goes

1. Maine
2. Jersey
3. Rest of New England
4. Rest of Eastern Seaboard
5. The rest of the states

Anyway... Jersey gave me the Boss, Lifetime, Saves the Day, The Wrens, and Titus Andronicus, and I therefore owe it my life.
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One I loved in recent years was Janelle Monae's The Archandroid. Might be more than a little out of the ILF world though, haha...
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D.o.S. wrote:Dude your new jersey boner is easily the most hilariously endearing thing about you.
Ranking of states goes

1. Maine
2. Jersey
3. Rest of New England
4. Rest of Eastern Seaboard
5. The rest of the states

Anyway... Jersey gave me the Boss, Lifetime, Saves the Day, The Wrens, and Titus Andronicus, and I therefore owe it my life.
I can understand Maine, it's essentially Canada at this point. :lol:
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Jersey over New York.

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Never really could get into Springsteen until I pulled some of his CDs out when digging thru my mom's collection over this last year. She was a huge fan, so it's probably entirely down to that, but whatever.

To get on topic tho, I've never been able to really get concept albums unless the concept was a really loose one (SFTD, Murder Ballads, etc). Not to say that I don't enjoy stuff like Pink Floyd, cus I do, but I just don't have the attention span to really pay attention to the overarching theme(s) on those. Berlin is great tho. One of my favorite "listen to this if you want to be miserable for the rest of the day/night" albums. Same with Diamond Dogs.

Scientist Rids the World of the Evil Curse of the Vampires is one that I'd call a great concept album. I used to listen to KJah, or whatever the station was called on GTA3, and it's the reason I got into Scientist + dub in general. Does Plastic Beach count? It's more of an overarching feeling/vibe thing than a story or anything, but if SFTD counts then that should too. :idk:

With the "isn't every album a concept album?" thing, I dunno. I mean, most albums tend to have songs with a similar vibe/sound/themes, but it tends to be more of a "we wrote these over a period of time, so they're similar" type thing if that makes sense. Sure, there's a loose concept with most albums, but I think it should probably be intentional if we're gonna count it. If not, then we might as well start considering Mark Lanegan's albums since the concept on almost all of them is heroin. :lol:
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Now that you mention soul crushing concept albums. The Antler's Hospice is great for when you want to die inside. :)
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Oh god that one's rough
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popvulture wrote:One I loved in recent years was Janelle Monae's The Archandroid. Might be more than a little out of the ILF world though, haha...
It shouldn't be. She is very ILF, she just doesn't always look the part (i.e., not a sweaty white guy with a lot of pedals). But if this doens't pique your interest, you're a goombah:
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popvulture wrote:One I loved in recent years was Janelle Monae's The Archandroid. Might be more than a little out of the ILF world though, haha...
It shouldn't be. She is very ILF, she just doesn't always look the part (i.e., not a sweaty white guy with a lot of pedals). But if this doens't pique your interest, you're a goombah:
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This is fuckin awesome.
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