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Vox Delaylab might be worth considering as a Timebender alternative. I had one briefly, but I always end up flipping delays with that many switches.

Someone mentioned Echo Park. I'm perfectly happy with the Behringer version. Dunno if I'd want to gig with it, but I wouldn't want to gig with the L6 either.

But really, RM-1n is bees knees for instant drone. And doom. And heavy soul. And Neil Young covers. And then more drone. Worth every Canadian cent. Best thing I've bought in 5-10 years.

doommeow wrote:Vox Delaylab might be worth considering as a Timebender alternative. I had one briefly, but I always end up flipping delays with that many switches.

Someone mentioned Echo Park. I'm perfectly happy with the Behringer version. Dunno if I'd want to gig with it, but I wouldn't want to gig with the L6 either.

But really, RM-1n is bees knees for instant drone. And doom. And heavy soul. And Neil Young covers. And then more drone. Worth every Canadian cent. Best thing I've bought in 5-10 years.

As far as value for money goes, I agree it's probably hard to beat. Apart from a couple of particular DL-4 modes and tricks that I liked, the delaylab kills the DL-4 in terms of overal sound, build quality, features, versatility,...

One of my pet peeves though: The size. The thing's even bigger than a DL-4, it's roughly twice the size of an Empress Superdelay. Meaning I'd have to sacrifise at least two of the much needed precious fuzz pedals on my already crowded pedal board :s

I'm pretty much set on getting a timebender one way or the other, and after that my 2015 pedal budget has been spend I'm afraid. So *if* I'll add a reverb pedal to the list, it'll have to cost a fraction of the RM-1N

The echo park used to be pretty high my list too, it might actually grab one someday when I've got my bank account in check. Like I said, there's at least one or two unique sounding (afaik) modes inthere that sometimes make me miss my old DL-4.

Everyone's board should resemble this:

Tuner > dirt > whatever pedals > reverb/delay > dirt

Especially if doing experimental ambient or doom type stuff. Reverb into dirt is so awesome, I hate everyone that criticizes that placement. Haha, they just don't get it I guess. I usually start with reverb > dirt > delay/verb > dirt, then place everything else somewhere depending on what I'm trying to do.

Pretty much any reverb or delay could be utilised in drone or ambient music, I would've thought. Probably best to look for reverse and gated effects or pedals that will allow you to reduce the attack/eliminate the original signal.

Timebender does 100% wet.

This is a live in the studio track, 339 Studio split to two discrete chains: clean guitar is 339/Space Echo for ambience barely/Hot Rod Deluxe, the rest is Fender Mustang V with some overblown plate verb and a patch I aptly call "Broken Hell" run into the Time Bender. Early Timebender is set on the pattern/chop delay, later on faux Space Echo. Harmonizer engaged fulltime, up 12/24 early, -4 / -5 later.

It's not subtle, it's not nice, but it takes a stupidly hot input signal and does whatever it wants from there.

Any stereo weirdness is the Timebender's settings and a mix of the USB out on the Mustang and a pair of condensers on the 4x12 stereo cab. Clean guitar is panned dead middle, not run through anything but the ol green suitcase.

Sounds awesome dude. I'm really close to pulling the trigger on a timebender, I just have to first move at least one or two of my current pedals...:s

I thought this thread was moot at 5 DS-1s...

Anything can do ambient with verb and delay... Timebender seems excessive like my two Minifooger Delays and my two DE-7s seem...

onyxrhino wrote:

frigid midget wrote: So what's the short cut to get somewhat big clear etheric drones?

You may want two of them

hah. JUST ordered one of these dooders. wanted to try it on my second board as a replacement for my H9 that i'm woefully under-using.

Danelectro fab echo, modded to oscillate makes some amazing gltchy repeats.
Also the fab chorus can be modded in to something strange by increasing the delay time. There's a guide somewhere on the internet.

alalalkasar wrote:Danelectro fab echo, modded to oscillate makes some amazing gltchy repeats.
Also the fab chorus can be modded in to something strange by increasing the delay time. There's a guide somewhere on the internet.

Excellent, I'm a sucker for modded cheapos, I'll have to look into that...Cheers.

frigid midget wrote:

alalalkasar wrote:Danelectro fab echo, modded to oscillate makes some amazing gltchy repeats.
Also the fab chorus can be modded in to something strange by increasing the delay time. There's a guide somewhere on the internet.

Excellent, I'm a sucker for modded cheapos, I'll have to look into that...Cheers.

I have two of these that I really want to mod and rehouse into one box

Also fab flange space mod sounds like it could provide some good looper fodder. There's a little video on YouTube.

Uncle Grandfather wrote:just get an Industrialectric RM-1N and have drone/dirt/fuzz/reverb etc.

I'm a big fan of the RM-1N but have yet to figure out how to use the Drone constructively. Anybody finding settings that make that switch really shine?