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He's no Zetametkawaii or whatever the PLL guy was.
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Is that the "I'm starting a pedal museum/I'm not selling my Sonic Crayon pedals I have no idea how to use/I am superior to you tone wise in every way" guy?
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...and so it begins.
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It's a bummer he made that post, I thought he wanted to talk about "gear". So "puerile".
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Strange Tales wrote:Is that the "I'm starting a pedal museum/I'm not selling my Sonic Crayon pedals I have no idea how to use/I am superior to you tone wise in every way" guy?


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All this hubbub over an overpriced ebow.
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Whats funny is if he just came out here and told us "Hey, my company built this you might like it." And left it at that he might have actually sold one.
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Whats funny is if he just came out here and told us "Hey, my company built this you might like it." And left it at that he might have actually sold one.


I doubt AE care what anyone is posting here, or if anyone here buys their products or not.

They seem to be busy in spite of all this moaning about price.


For someone who doesn't have anything invested in this company you keep defending it tooth and nail. Plus I bet if we looked up your IP address it would probably be the same as the company. So why give yourself all this negative press? Cause this backdoor viral marketing shit ain't working.
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I'm not sure, I consider that mostly a bit of marketing talk really.


I can tell you this is absolutely no marketing talk

I spoke with the man himself and Herr von Aescher told me he does Not produce "consumer products"
and has no plans to ever do so. He says he makes "personalised state of the art sound tools for serious sound artists",
since most players can't afford the gear, he has less orders and more time to handmake every unit one at a time,
and (according to the Aescher profile page) up to his Hoch-Präzisionsfeinhandwerkskunst principle, which seems to be a religion in Germany..
as well as special customer requirements, special instrument string spacings, 7 - 8 or 10 string instruments and such,
the reason for the high prices is that everything is 100% handmade and takes amazing amounts of time and work to produce.
Even the enclosures are handmade from acrylic and they look perfect!
You can have them made in any colour you want, and any string spacing. Try getting that kind of personalised service from other manufacturers.

Anyway.. the actual price you pay is not the advertised price, I paid a lot less than the listed price for the E30.
This is why there is no automated shopping trolly or instant payment button on the Aescher site, the prices are all individual to the customer,
and customers with a tighter budget will pay less than those who are financially comfortable.
He actually Raises the prices when he gets too many orders, to Reduce the number of new orders.
It's a very anti-corporate strategy.
My E30 is really a work of art - not just a cool unit.

Sounds nice but seems especially useful on bass, I'm amazed how big the difference is between bass and guitar, on a guitar it doesn't seem much better or different from an Ebow really.


It sounds totally different on bass, because long heavy-gauge bass strings sound totally different from short light-gauge twangy guitar strings,
and long bass strings have way more harmonics than short guitar strings.

This is not anything you can attribute to the SRG E30, the sound is totally dependent on the strings, pickups and amp
and of course the playing technique. The strings really make the most difference, the type of strings, age of the strings,
the string length, gauge, and tension effects the natural harmonics of the string.

Whether a string is round wound or flat wound also makes a huge difference.
If you want a convincing cello sound, lose the round wounds and lose the Frets!
you will only get that sound right with flat wound strings on a fretless instrument..

The resonator does not have a "sound" of it's own, it only vibrates the strings, it's "the strings" that have "the sound" and what comes out
also depends on the type of pickup used.

The LPF and HPF modes also don't have a sound of their own, they're Band Pass Filters
and only pass frequencies that are already vibrating in the string.
This goes for any resonator, including the Ebow.

Blaming a bad harmonic tone on a resonator is like taking pics of a rubbish tip with an expensive camera
and complaining that the shots don't look like the hanging gardens of Babylon. What goes in is what comes out!

I bought an XL6 kit with breakout box and VX interface for the VG-99,
this passive hex pickup gives a much fatter sound with the E30 than even my EMGs!
but it's really designed for the polyphonic resonators, so you can use them over the pickup in polyphonic mode
without frying the pickup. You can only use the E10 in mono mode if you want to play over a normal guitar pickup.

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A crappy pickup will have a crappy distorted sound.
The guy in these demo videos is playing a Fender, which has the worst-made pickups in the industry,
more deadspots than a graveyeard, and who knows what kind of amp he's playing through, but the E30 sounds nothing like that
on my custom-made guitar with EMG pickups, it sounds fat and awesome in LPF mode with full harmonics in HPF (harmonic) mode.

The HPF mode demo in the video must have some weird pedal effect on it, cuz I've never heard this tone on my instrument with the E30.

The E30 is nothing like an Ebow, you can get a machine gun alternating effect with the trigger switches which does not exist on the Ebow,
there is no LPF (bass boost) on the Ebow, and no Mute switch on the Ebow, the Mute switch let's you arpeggiate in a staccato way
that is totally impossible with the Ebow, if you have the finger speed you can actually get a tremolo effect with the mute.

On my fretless bass with flatwound strings, the LPF mode sounds exactly like a cello!

I'm really waiting for the D1 Drone demo vid to come out, this is the unit I'm interested in most.


Third person marketing comes across like this:
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He does realize just cause he can't see our posts doesn't mean the internet still can't?
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