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Re: Best Fattening Modulation?

Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 2:13 pm
by ChetMagongalo
I vote Lofi junky and polytope. The cosmi is great but I think the warped vinyl seems cooler if you're gonna go expensive. I found the cosmi to be dreamy but not really fat at most settings.

Re: Best Fattening Modulation?

Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 3:11 pm
by univalve
I think Tris idea with The warped vinyl is pretty good. Very fat sounding but it can be subtle or intense.
Lo-Fi junky was also my other idea.
Of you don't want Modulation try a pitch shifter with a minimal detune. Could be The sound you looking for without (stupid) lfo.

Re: Best Fattening Modulation?

Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 3:16 pm
by rfurtkamp
Yep, mentioned the detune.

+/-5 cents stereo panned gets huge fast without being swirly.

Love my rack toys for that!

Re: Best Fattening Modulation?

Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 3:48 pm
by Chankgeez
univalve wrote:... try a pitch shifter with a minimal detune.
:lol:

What I'm actually using now (and what inspired this thread) is a Rainbow Machine set like that.
rfurtkamp wrote:Yep, mentioned the detune.
:thumb:

Re: Best Fattening Modulation?

Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 3:57 pm
by univalve
That's how i use mine the most too.

Re: Best Fattening Modulation?

Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 3:59 pm
by sylnau
Mid-Fi Deluxe Pitch Pirate?

I always wanted to try one of these.

Re: Best Fattening Modulation?

Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 3:59 pm
by ChetMagongalo
that was easily my favorite part about the rainbow machine!

Re: Best Fattening Modulation?

Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 4:12 pm
by zRobertez
You could probably set some sort of filter up for some PHAT stuff. Mid freqs but not huge peaks?

Re: Best Fattening Modulation?

Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 4:17 pm
by Chankgeez
Yeah, I usually have the PDF-1 in the chain as well. It helps, but can't where I want on its own. I'll try a stronger filter.

Re: Best Fattening Modulation?

Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 5:56 pm
by DarkAxel
Sugestions for the "solo guitar" sound in the first minute?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPFmOSej_xE[/youtube]

Unfortunately, I don't have money for the Warped Vinyl :D

Re: Best Fattening Modulation?

Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 9:28 pm
by rfurtkamp
The right reverb/delay/distortion combination, and pretty much any chorus would get there I'd think.

I'm hearing mostly the interplay of the verb/od/delay, with chorus as the finishing touch.

But there's a *lot* of processing going on. I'd want high-end multi as the starting point to do in the wild on a "budget" - and a guitar with a piezo blend and/or phase switching too.

YT may be complicating it though as well, would need a higher quality source materal. The right panned electric lead section in the second minute might point where to go as well, the gain staging sounds similar without all the delay/verb/modulation.

Re: Best Fattening Modulation?

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 5:43 am
by DarkAxel
Yeah, I do hear that the verb is doing a lot, but the modulation itself doesn't really sound like a chorus to me

Re: Best Fattening Modulation?

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 7:19 am
by Ro_S
I reckon it needs to be analogue - either tube, optical or bbd chips.

Suggestions:

- a univibe-type effect for that lovely 'chewy' thing (e.g. Voodoo Lab Micro Vibe)

- an old-school type phaser, such as a 70s Small Stone, a Russian (black) Small Stone, or a Visual Sound Oil Can.

- a Voodoo Lab Analog Chorus (not a typical sounding chorus! has phaser like qualities)

- Biyang CH8 Chorus (a Boss CE-2 clone but with a tone knob)

- an optical tremolo (e.g. Voodoo Lab Tremolo)

- a tube tremolo (e.g. Guyatone Flip)

- a tremolo with a tone knob (e.g. Nobels TR-X Ttremolo, SolidGold Stutterbox)

Re: Best Fattening Modulation?

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 2:15 pm
by DarkAxel
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zqf8019fkEo[/youtube]

similar vibrato... what can I say - I'm a huge sucker for anything Steven Wilson does... my biggest idol
Anything that can get me close to those smooth tones? Maybe the little Malekko vibrato? BBE Mind Bender?

I know he uses TC Electronics Shaker live - any experience with that, guys?

Re: Best Fattening Modulation?

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 2:22 pm
by rfurtkamp
Given the BBE and the Malekko aren't going to be significantly cheaper, might as well start where the man does if that's what you're gunning for.