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Re: Amp Techniques - Am I doing it all wrong?

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 2:40 am
by D.o.S.
rfurtkamp wrote:I'm happy with about 200, of which I use about 20.

I want to be able to peel the paint off of anything, if I needed to.

Then again, I realized recently that a 4x12 in the living room was a great idea.

Now I need a 1x15 to go with it.
TL-606 all day!

Re: Amp Techniques - Am I doing it all wrong?

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:32 pm
by van_muddlestein
I still hold out hope with Fuzz, I need to mess more with less saturated stuff like the Zephyr fuzz or anything Astro tone based, and things based off the Maestro fuzz, but I prefer a dirty amp. I run my Orange dimed on the volume and the gain pretty high up on it. I'm beginning to much prefer that sound to anything else.

Re: Amp Techniques - Am I doing it all wrong?

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 2:59 pm
by vegedge
i run a sunn 200s with a joyo ultimate overdrive and can never get the tone nor distortion i want from it. i have tried amp cranked pedal for distortion. and i have tried pedal cranked on moderate amp volume. its always too boomy or thin...:/ i feel like i need an amp with the ability for natural breakup

Re: Amp Techniques - Am I doing it all wrong?

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 6:31 pm
by Holy Schnikes
I like a loud clean amp with dirt and fuzz but over the years I've realized I get better sounds out of a loud clean-ish amp, just a bit of hair/breakup going on with the clean tone and the fuzz/boost/dirt sends it over the edge into thick heavy goodness.

Depends on the amp of course.

Re: Amp Techniques - Am I doing it all wrong?

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 6:40 pm
by Wes Mantooth
I definitely prefer having a solid amount of gain and using fuzz into it. At least with my OR-15 that is what I like best. Definitely lots of feedback and some noise, but I like that shit.

Re: Amp Techniques - Am I doing it all wrong?

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:05 pm
by Holy Schnikes
Yup, current production Orange stuff is like that. I have a TH-30 that loves dirt/fuzz but only on gain channel. The clean side just doesn't do well with dirt unless you're running it loud and hot to introduce some grit.

Re: Amp Techniques - Am I doing it all wrong?

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 2:17 pm
by vegedge
i have a question to add here..
so i have a sunn 200s. it can get very loud. i keep it at around 9 o'clock(4-5 on the knob)
and then have my joyo Ultimate drive boost it for a aggressive 90's punk tone.

would it be better to have the amp cranked and the pedal on to the same volume..
or to have the amp on a lower volume and the pedal cranked?
is one preamp distortion and the other powertube?

i really with i could find a overdrive that would fit my 200s better. tried the joyo tube screamer and it sucked..


hallp.

Re: Amp Techniques - Am I doing it all wrong?

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 4:25 pm
by skullservant
It's all a personal preference thing. There is no right or wrong. You should totally try it both ways, and then go with whichever you like better

Re: Amp Techniques - Am I doing it all wrong?

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 4:39 pm
by AxAxSxS
and if you want more low end girth, ad just about any B.A.T. pedal to the setup, well documented here and if you poke around you can figure out what would best suit you.

Re: Amp Techniques - Am I doing it all wrong?

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 5:21 pm
by rfurtkamp
vegedge wrote:i have a question to add here..
so i have a sunn 200s. it can get very loud. i keep it at around 9 o'clock(4-5 on the knob)
and then have my joyo Ultimate drive boost it for a aggressive 90's punk tone.
...
hallp.
I'm not sure what you mean by a '90s punk tone' - it marks me as old, but the pseudo-punk bands I saw in the 90s were rocking Marshalls that Mommy paid for or Peavey or Sunn SS amps turned up well into unpleasantness usually to a point where everything was too loud for the room.

Nobody was really 'overdrive', it was all nasty, trashy boxy ugly at bleeding volumes.

Re: Amp Techniques - Am I doing it all wrong?

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:04 pm
by Sardocasm
Clean clean clean. I can't stand breakup/edgeofbreakup/etc tones. Clean and ultra distorted is the only way for me.

This thread is making me miss having an amp. The amp I have on order can't get here soon enough. :omg:

Re: Amp Techniques - Am I doing it all wrong?

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 7:02 pm
by vegedge
rfurtkamp wrote:
vegedge wrote:i have a question to add here..
so i have a sunn 200s. it can get very loud. i keep it at around 9 o'clock(4-5 on the knob)
and then have my joyo Ultimate drive boost it for a aggressive 90's punk tone.
...
hallp.
I'm not sure what you mean by a '90s punk tone' - it marks me as old, but the pseudo-punk bands I saw in the 90s were rocking Marshalls that Mommy paid for or Peavey or Sunn SS amps turned up well into unpleasantness usually to a point where everything was too loud for the room.

Nobody was really 'overdrive', it was all nasty, trashy boxy ugly at bleeding volumes.
http://youtu.be/sCtoKan57Tk
http://youtu.be/oZQ_7s0Fg48

I tend to disagree.. here is some very nice 90's punk guitar and bass tones. there is punk outside of the garbage radio, people just don't seem to realize that anymore.

Re: Amp Techniques - Am I doing it all wrong?

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 7:59 pm
by rfurtkamp
I'm talking what I saw on tour, opening shows, at clubs, etc. at the time. When you walked out on the Jesus Lizard because, well, they were inconsistent as hell and they'd be back next week anyway.

That first link I'd classify as alt.rock, it sounds instant college radio of the era. Second, I hear studio wizard not the band.

The punk scene that I ran across back then was very confused and fragmented to say the least.