morningstaru wrote:I can't help but feel you are playing the victim a bit roseweave
Do you really think a fair argument is one person, maybe 2 people, against like 7 or 8? Come on. What I said was true, there's no way this argument is fair for me. I can't keep up with answering that many people even if their arguments are relatively short and simple compared to mine. It's a nightmare.
You can watch south park and disagree with their beliefs. You can pirate the episodes if you feel it is morally wrong to watch the show and score them revenue dollars.
Where as I find it hard to support a danelectro product when the owner is diverting dano funds to what amounts to hate legislation.
But there's only so far $15,000 will go to banning gay marriage. South Park as a show has very wide influence and can potentially have a much greater negative influence with it's strawman based humour.
It makes sense that garrison reverted back to "mr. garrison". The character has always been very impulsive and fickle.
Again;
I mean come on the defenses make no sense. People are using both the fact that Mrs. Garrison was the one that turned out okay AND the fact that he reverted for their case! Choose one or the other. Either it's showing he wasn't a real trans, or it was.
Also, where is an example of a transgendered character in South Park that is not impulsive and fickle? It just fits in with the mass media representation of transsexuals, gay men who don't think things through and it'll come back to them later on.
It is unfathomable in the real world to consider somebody would get gender correction surgery if they were not really transgender, but it is exactly what a character like garrison would do.
The general public are not aware of this. As far as they're concerned, a sexually perverse and overall nasty character is the one nominated to be the transsexual. Therefore they are most likely to think, with no other frame of reference, that Mrs. Garrison is just an exagerration of what a real transsexual is like, and the same basic morals/principles apply. Everything you're saying only applies if you already know full well what a transsexual is.
He continues to be a character very much in conflict over his sexual identity, as seen in his attempts to clone a penis and act like a "straight" man again.
So in other words he later regrets it, just like the mass media likes to assert transsexuals will? I often see these stories in the papers here, even though they're a small minority of cases. That's always the big thing people push on transsexuals. But suddenly when Matt and Trey do it, it's part of a deep, complex character? Wow, they really can do no wrong.
Again, you're the ones looking too deeply into it. I'm just saying they're critical of transsexuals, know nothing about the subject, but went ahead with the episode and kept Mrs. Garrison that way for shit's and giggles. Occam's Razor doesn't like your argument, there are too many presumptions.
Was it an accurate portrayal? Probably not...but they did display (some) sensitivity to the issue,
Where? The part where they were graphically showing the operation, or the part where it was compared to Negroplasty?
Also, the fact that people of South Park just "accept" Mrs. Garrison isn't a positive thing - most of the adults are shown as being stupid, and it's as if to say that real world trans are just bitch and get plenty recognition. I hate that.
and it brings it forth into the spotlight when others would simply like to see transgender issues simply shuffled under the rug where nobody has to deal with them.
But it brings them forward in a negative light. Human beings work by taking the first thing they're shown as a frame of reference. Really, how is the average american going to watch that episode and take home something positive? You're the one thinking too hard about it, not me.
