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Re: $60 Torn's Peaker problem
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 6:23 pm
by Smarty
Scruffie wrote:Okay... so I tested it, hum had gone down but noise still at both ends of the texture pot and it barely seemed to do much.
So took the electrical tape off, noise had gone straight away... going to investigate a bit more, see if the tape is conductive, 2 parts were shorting or there's a poor solder joint.
Sorry Smarty, looks like i'm not posting it today!
No probs, explore away!
Re: $60 Torn's Peaker problem
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:06 pm
by Scruffie
Ragged Trousers wrote:And Devi said that's how it's supposed to sound? Pfffssst ffs
Yeah... no.
I mean I guess she gets a lot of 'this pedal sounds broken' but unless removing the tape has let out the complete shit mojo then she either didn't listen to that clip or should really try it without the tape causing an issue, it sounds much better.
Anyway, the tape is not conductive unless there's some loose solder or something stuck on it somewhere but it may have a) been squeezing on one of the components/wire and putting strain on the joint (it was pretty tight) or b) there's a poor solder joint it pressed on or squeezed a component out of good connection... I can spot a few that a reflow wouldn't hurt but I wouldn't say it's
badly soldered... although some of the component leads have been snipped
on and including the solder joint which is not good practice for structural integrity.
At the end of the day though... it is only $60 for a hand made fuzz so at large volume the odd dud is to be expected, but some better QC or not passing off noise complaints might be an idea, busy or not.
I think i'll skip the tape and just stick it down secure with some industrial double sided foam tape so it's not floating.
Re: $60 Torn's Peaker problem
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:03 pm
by adapt
adapt wrote:i've fixed a torn's peaker that had the exact problem. the problem in my case is that the wires were too close together and the circuit is so high gain that it was causing interference. try playing a note and then moving wires apart until it stops, if it does.
adapt wrote:i've fixed a torn's peaker that had the exact problem. the problem in my case is that the wires were too close together and the circuit is so high gain that it was causing interference. try playing a note and then moving wires apart until it stops, if it does.
adapt wrote:i've fixed a torn's peaker that had the exact problem. the problem in my case is that the wires were too close together and the circuit is so high gain that it was causing interference. try playing a note and then moving wires apart until it stops, if it does.
adapt wrote:i've fixed a torn's peaker that had the exact problem. the problem in my case is that the wires were too close together and the circuit is so high gain that it was causing interference. try playing a note and then moving wires apart until it stops, if it does.
adapt wrote:i've fixed a torn's peaker that had the exact problem. the problem in my case is that the wires were too close together and the circuit is so high gain that it was causing interference. try playing a note and then moving wires apart until it stops, if it does.
Re: $60 Torn's Peaker problem
Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:10 pm
by Scruffie
adapt wrote:adapt wrote:i've fixed a torn's peaker that had the exact problem. the problem in my case is that the wires were too close together and the circuit is so high gain that it was causing interference. try playing a note and then moving wires apart until it stops, if it does.
adapt wrote:i've fixed a torn's peaker that had the exact problem. the problem in my case is that the wires were too close together and the circuit is so high gain that it was causing interference. try playing a note and then moving wires apart until it stops, if it does.
adapt wrote:i've fixed a torn's peaker that had the exact problem. the problem in my case is that the wires were too close together and the circuit is so high gain that it was causing interference. try playing a note and then moving wires apart until it stops, if it does.
adapt wrote:i've fixed a torn's peaker that had the exact problem. the problem in my case is that the wires were too close together and the circuit is so high gain that it was causing interference. try playing a note and then moving wires apart until it stops, if it does.
adapt wrote:i've fixed a torn's peaker that had the exact problem. the problem in my case is that the wires were too close together and the circuit is so high gain that it was causing interference. try playing a note and then moving wires apart until it stops, if it does.
I did that and knew of the 'fix' (devi had mentioned it before I believe) it did nothing. It's a board issue, and plus no ground... still can't believe that.
Re: $60 Torn's Peaker problem
Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:54 am
by JohnnyC
im sure devi would like to know...if she hasnt read this thread already.
i would if i had hired assemblers.
good to see that a fellow forumite could help out a member.good vibes for ILF
Re: $60 Torn's Peaker problem
Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 8:41 am
by Smarty
JohnnyC wrote:
good to see that a fellow forumite could help out a member.good vibes for ILF
Absolutely, its really, really appreciated Scruffie. Thank you!
Re: $60 Torn's Peaker problem
Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:29 am
by Jwar
I had a Torns Peaker when Aen was making them and it sounded awesome. No issues at all. It is a noisy fucking pedal.
I don't quite get the electrical tape thing. I've put it on the back of enclosures before as a preventative measure, but never on a circuit.
Re: $60 Torn's Peaker problem
Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 12:40 pm
by DarkAxel
I remember her statement basically saying she's never done anything except for fuzz, because everything else is too hard
that made me lol
and if she's hiring assemblers with equal skill, this is not a really surprising thread for me
i keep my fingers crossed for you, though... that's too bad and the fact she's saying it's supposed to do that is kind of unbelievable to me
good luck
Re: $60 Torn's Peaker problem
Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 12:56 pm
by Scruffie
DarkAxel wrote:I remember her statement basically saying she's never done anything except for fuzz, because everything else is too hard
that made me lol
and if she's hiring assemblers with equal skill, this is not a really surprising thread for me
i keep my fingers crossed for you, though... that's too bad and the fact she's saying it's supposed to do that is kind of unbelievable to me
good luck
I wont entirely knock the build quality, in many ways it's fine, wires are short and tidy enough, soldering job is acceptable (the cutting at the lead thing is forgiveable if the person assembling doesn't know any better) it's just no real care has been taken at the QC stage.
The lack of ground isn't so forgiveable, that's kinda wiring 101 (I assume this is down to using plastic jacks and not realising they don't make connection with the enclosure like a metal jack would) and the electrical tape, while at the start of Effector13 I can see the reasoning behind it, over time that could have been 'upgraded' although I suppose it has become a bit of a trademark thing... almost an in joke by now. The drilling error I guess was down to not changing the template for the different jack types, once again QC (although it wouldn't have stopped anything working).
$60 fuzz though as i've said.
Anyway, seems fine now and I can't recreate the issue.
But anyone with one of the $60 fuzzes should probably check for a ground connection and add one if it's missing.
Re: $60 Torn's Peaker problem
Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:41 pm
by JohnnyC
[quote="Scruffie"]
$60 fuzz though as i've said.
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$60 may not sound like a lot but it is when it could potentially end up costing double and being a somewhat inconvienience.
With the issues on hand…the buyer/customer would have had to pay postage+bench/repair fee (if there wasn’t a forum member kind enough to offer their services)
Re: $60 Torn's Peaker problem
Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 2:45 pm
by More_Divebombs
I had the same problem with my DE Rocket a couple of years ago. Super noisy switch, and just generally awful sounds being omitted. As I live in the UK, I had to pay through the nose for postage, import tax and whatnot. I emailed DE and got no response (Uncool). Had to pay Strung Out in Glasgow to fix it. The guy emailed me upon inspecting it and was pretty surprised about the amount of "cut corners", but said it was an easy fix. The pedal, including postage, taxes and repairs ended up costing me £200.
Annoyingly, I never took to the the Rocket in the end. I thought it sounded good at bedroom/recording levels, but just doesn't cut it at jamming volumes.
I really dig the DE range in theory. I just wish they were, y'know, better?
Re: $60 Torn's Peaker problem
Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 3:09 pm
by Scruffie
Scruffie, now open for business to make all UK Devi pedals work properly
Re: $60 Torn's Peaker problem
Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 4:22 pm
by Jwar
Well I've had issues with my Bit lately. I thought it was my cable or power supply, but it persists. It seems to work right about half the time I use it. I haven't cracked it open yet, I suppose I should do that. I was told it was probably something else in my set up causing the issue.
Re: $60 Torn's Peaker problem
Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 4:25 pm
by Scruffie
jwar wrote:Well I've had issues with my Bit lately. I thought it was my cable or power supply, but it persists. It seems to work right about half the time I use it. I haven't cracked it open yet, I suppose I should do that. I was told it was probably something else in my set up causing the issue.
If it's not grounded properly... hey presto that can cause intermittent issues!
Take a guts photo.
Re: $60 Torn's Peaker problem
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 4:30 am
by ghost_effects
Scruffie wrote:Scruffie, now open for business to make all UK Devi pedals work properly
you should licence the designs from her and build em right, you know grounded and whatnot!
