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DarkAxel wrote:Muffs, generic overdrives and basically everything really generic

but also... builders hardly tapping into envelope controlled stuff...I mean Wampler FTE has a modulation controlled via the strength of your picking... why are not there more envelope controlled stuff? I want envelope controlled vibrato/pitch shifter, I want envelope controlled flanger AND i want those things and an envelope filter with controllable attack time

I simply have some sounds in my head I can't find in a pedal... and please don'T quote me posting some fucking pixiedust obscure builder who built two envelope controlled everythings and used his blood to mix it with the lacquer and then disappeared forever

i don't know, kind of a train of thoughts rant... but... yeah

Mobius does these things actually. You can use envelope in the quadrant mode and tune it to do chorus/flanger/pitch/tremolo effects

What effects/circuits are you tired of?

Is the correct answer the ones with copper and solder???

dubkitty wrote:the Wolf Computer is a mutation of the FF? WOW. i would not have guessed that.

Kinda yes and kinda no.

univalve wrote:Haha, you built the Wolf Computer i am using the most!

Nice! That tangerine is soo sexy

V_____ wrote:

dubkitty wrote:the Wolf Computer is a mutation of the FF? WOW. i would not have guessed that.

Kinda yes and kinda no.

It has an additional gain stage and several other tweaks.

To answer the original,

YOUR MAMA.

V_____ wrote:

DarkAxel wrote:Muffs, generic overdrives and basically everything really generic

but also... builders hardly tapping into envelope controlled stuff...I mean Wampler FTE has a modulation controlled via the strength of your picking... why are not there more envelope controlled stuff? I want envelope controlled vibrato/pitch shifter, I want envelope controlled flanger AND i want those things and an envelope filter with controllable attack time

I simply have some sounds in my head I can't find in a pedal... and please don'T quote me posting some fucking pixiedust obscure builder who built two envelope controlled everythings and used his blood to mix it with the lacquer and then disappeared forever

i don't know, kind of a train of thoughts rant... but... yeah

Mobius does these things actually. You can use envelope in the quadrant mode and tune it to do chorus/flanger/pitch/tremolo effects

damn, seems to me there are all these big expansive boxes that can do it

i'd like to see it in a single pedal format tho... whatever, i'll look around and the Soundblox seems very appealing to me! might become a purchase in the future

sergiomunoz74 wrote:I've learned simplicity is key when it comes to pedals, honestly if I want some cool textures, sounds, and movement, I just bring out the synths and let my guitar be a guitar for the most part. I'm constantly downgrading my pedal board before it was filled to the brim with some rad boutique stuff but now I have 6 cheap pedals, I'm still trying to remove more.

also as far as the "simplicity" goes, i'm all for the notion of not using guitar as a guitar but as an instrument

Jero wrote:

univalve wrote:Haha, you built the Wolf Computer i am using the most!

Nice! That tangerine is soo sexy

V_____ wrote:

dubkitty wrote:the Wolf Computer is a mutation of the FF? WOW. i would not have guessed that.

Kinda yes and kinda no.

It has an additional gain stage and several other tweaks.

The Wolf Computer doesn't have an extra gain stage over the Fuzz Factory except in the deluxe version (over the fuzz face, yes, but I think FF here was Factory).

Main differences between Wolf Computer and Fuzz Factory are the controls/control ranges, transistor types, and a lot of the actual component values.

For example, Wolf Computer uses all NPN silicon transistors of type 2n3904 while Fuzz Factory uses two PNP Ge transistors with one 2n3904. The input stage is different as well, being higher gain in the Wolf Computer. Fuzz Factory also has numerous controls that are different, but Voltage/Stab are rougly equivalent (kinda...the PNP setup of the GE transistors makes all the controls kind of different).

If anyone was unsure the Silver Apple I make is an even further mutated Wolf Computer with still different controls/control ranges from either FFy or WC and other weird stuff like a momentary oscillation button that swaps out several different values/knobs simultaneously. I started out pedal building that way by building a Wolf Computer clone from the original schematic Eric gave me. Then for like a month I built a different variation of it every day until I wound up with what I thought was more optimal from a playing/flexibility/reliability perspective.

DarkAxel wrote:also as far as the "simplicity" goes, i'm all for the notion of not using guitar as a guitar but as an instrument

yes. the way i like to put it is that i think of the guitar as a sound source or a tone generator when i'm using effects.

I'm not necessarily tired of Big Muff, rat etc clones, because there are a bunch of good ones, but I AM tired of clones that don't add any extra fucking controls, they just apparently sound better. I'm thinking like the musket/blunderbuss and BAT stuff are muff clones I really like, but another 3 knob thing? ehhhhhh. Exception for that recent ARC one because it was just so pretty, but...

I'd say I was tired of tubescreamers but I just don't like any of those, which isn't really the same.

the first time i tried a Tube Screamer my reaction was "wow, that sounds awful." i'm sticking with that.

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Jero wrote:

univalve wrote:Haha, you built the Wolf Computer i am using the most!

Nice! That tangerine is soo sexy

V_____ wrote:

dubkitty wrote:the Wolf Computer is a mutation of the FF? WOW. i would not have guessed that.

Kinda yes and kinda no.

It has an additional gain stage and several other tweaks.

I was referring to it being a modded Fuzz Face, NOT FFactory. Uni said something about Fuzz Faces and then Dub quoting him, so I assumed he meant Face not Factory.

Jero wrote:

V_____ wrote:

V_____ wrote:

dubkitty wrote:the Wolf Computer is a mutation of the FF? WOW. i would not have guessed that.

Kinda yes and kinda no.

It has an additional gain stage and several other tweaks.

I was referring to it being a modded Fuzz Face, NOT FFactory. Uni said something about Fuzz Faces and then Dub quoting him, so I assumed he meant Face not Factory.[/quote]

That's kinda what I figured. I thought he meant mutated Fuzz Factory. Both are probably a "sorta" answer i suppose.

I'm actually not much of a Fuzz Face fan myself, but I love the WC Fuzz Factory and other oscillating fuzzes.

Fuzz Factory is a Fuzz Face, innit tho

Jero wrote:

V_____ wrote:

univalve wrote:Haha, you built the Wolf Computer i am using the most!

Nice! That tangerine is soo sexy

V_____ wrote:

dubkitty wrote:the Wolf Computer is a mutation of the FF? WOW. i would not have guessed that.

Kinda yes and kinda no.

It has an additional gain stage and several other tweaks.

I was referring to it being a modded Fuzz Face, NOT FFactory. Uni said something about Fuzz Faces and then Dub quoting him, so I assumed he meant Face not Factory.[/quote]
Yeah, i was referring to fuzz faces. My original post in this thread was intended in that Way, that i was almost done (tired) with them and then got the last year a whole bunch of New Takes of it. I would right now call myself a fuzz Face Fan...

So you are saying that you a re a Fuzz Factory Fan.
Nice