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I'm catching the Spokane date in November (picked up tix on presale). The venue is within walking distance which is cool.

I've never seen NIN live and I feel like the time to catch Trent and Co in a live setting has past. Would have been either after Fragile came out or after The Slip (one of my favorite NIN records) came out and NIN's touring band included JMJ and Josh Freese (two of my favorite mainstream-ish musicians).

Either way I'm sure it will be fun.

I'm relatively familiar with EITS; but I have to brush up on GY!BE. The fact that Trent is touring with two Post Rock bands makes me wonder if that is the vibe the new record is going to wind up being like. I feel like Ghosts had a bit of a Post Rock vibe,...but admittedly I haven't invested a whole lot of time with those records.

Shame that Belew pulled out. That would have probably been pretty amazing.

warwick.hoy wrote:
I'm relatively familiar with EITS; but I have to brush up on GY!BE. The fact that Trent is touring with two Post Rock bands makes me wonder if that is the vibe the new record is going to wind up being like.

Oh, If only...

RR Bigman wrote:meh, sounds like some fruity loops default drums and microkorg presets. I'll pass.

^^^This. Plus some barely re-hashed lyrics that sound like he way stretching to make them rhyme. In fact, a lot of his newer stuff sounds wayyyyy dumbed-down and simplified from the way it used to.

I did like Ghosts.....but it's easily something any of us could've made. More and more these days I'm finding myself saying that about a lot of music. It's becoming really hard to find creative and orginal songwriters in the sea of copy-cut-and-paste type of musicians. On the positive side, that doesn't mean I don't enjoy a lot of what I find. It's just nothing that I think is very original. The only reason I see NIN being any kind of successful in these multiple comebacks they've had is that A: NIN is established from back when he/they were doing doing something original, and B: because of that they have the money and thus time to produce, promote, and distribute new records, and tour with them. I've heard a fair amount of "amateur" music that is more interesting, original, and complex than the latest NIN, but those "amateurs" don't have the $$$, time and "status" that Trent does. In fact, I'd venture to say that some of those kinds of artists would be called "copycats" if they did!

Sorry if that was a rant. I still love most of NIN. I just wanted to get a couple cents in.

Yo, even NIN way back when just sounded like Skinny Puppy anyway.

WeHuntKings wrote:Yo, even NIN way back when just sounded like Skinny Puppy anyway.

Errr...
I Don't think that happened?
Pretty hate machine was more like really early ministry.

Trent ain't shit without Marilyn Manson man.

warwick.hoy wrote:Trent ain't shit without Marilyn Manson man.

Thems fightin words!!!!!!!!

Manson went to shit really. Trent has stayed strong.


Also, I hate Skinny Puppy. There I said it. What? WHAT?!?!?!

I hated Manson for a long time. Not from a "think about the children" aspect, just I never really dug his music. Too abrasive and obnoxious.

My wife really really likes Manson and from that I've gleaned that he has some songs that are tolerable.

I no longer make the wife turn it off when I'm around.

What I do appreciate about Manson is that he just doesn't give a fuck about what I think,...about what our culture (lol) thinks,...about what parents think. If the music doesn't speak to me; at least the attitude does.

DarkAxel wrote:by the way

nice of Devi that she disses Trent and the new song (PumpkinPieces too ) for sounding like Ghost for the last few years while this song sounds like something he'd do very very long time ago (I'm talking Pretty Hate Machine with a modern sound)

lol what did I do? I wasn't dissing it, I love the new NIN track. I was just saying if I was Trent and movie producers asked me to make soundtracks for their films that are essentially rehashes/remixes of shit I already did.... that I would be so fucking down because $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

But honestly I am not even close to being familiar with NIN's discography, but my girlfriend is ALL ABOUT IT. We're going to go see them in October in Auburn Hills, MI. I need to get familiar with their stuff so I don't feel like a total boob.

oh, OK sorry for misinterpreting

PumpkinPieces wrote:But honestly I am not even close to being familiar with NIN's discography, but my girlfriend is ALL ABOUT IT. We're going to go see them in October in Auburn Hills, MI. I need to get familiar with their stuff so I don't feel like a total boob.

You should knock out The Fragile & The Downward Spiral soon.
Maybe throw Year Zero since you've been all about the beatzzzz recently

Never got into skinny puppy much. Some stoner kid let me borrow a skinny puppy record when we were both in jr high.

downward spiral was the shit, has to be his best. i can still listen to that album and love every second of it. fucking brilliant. the sharon tate house stuff is really fucked up though, obviously.

the fragile was the last thing i was really into. i got it the day it was released. first time i heard it i was blown out on sugarcubes with my eyes closed and 2 JBL 3 way speakers pointed right at me. i always thought it was really awesome, then sort of unfocused, etc.
like "we're in it together" was the lead single? 2nd track on the album? the vocal delivery in that chorus just sucks man.

its one of those things where he spent like 4 years on the fragile and just over-thought (some of) it. i dunno.

thats just like my opinion man. but overall still a really important album for me. the wretched is still fucking baller.

the next album i hated, cant even remember what it was called.

really tried to get into year zero

i think it's awesome he's still sober and working his ass off. but im pretty sure recording the fragile almost killed him.
someone told me he drank up his studio after the fragile, but that was just some guy talking. fuck does he know. i never really followed his private life. i just know he struggled with shit

I bought tickets to the show in September. Had to. LOVE NIN. Going to go there with my boner on. Yea!!!

I respect dude for past accomplishments but meh. The downward spiral is dope but most of his work is just too tryhard to mine ears. And I'm kinda bummed that belew isn't involved anymore....I'd pay just to see/hear him.