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Re: Does it even really make a difference who the next POTUS
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 12:17 pm
by snipelfritz
echoraven wrote:snipelfritz wrote:Colbert said it best in that "reality has a liberal bias."
Carson's claim that Obama and Clinton get less scrutiny is pretty absurd as he said it an arms length away from the #1 birther during a debate he demanded be under 2 hours just weeks after Hillary spent 11 hours straight defending her actions over one incident (also a reminder that the email "scandal" came up squeaky clean)...
Hillary's 11 hours weren't from the media. They had bought hook, like and sinker the original lie that Benghazi was about a video. Things the media won't ask Hillary:
1. The child rapist she saved from prison, or his 12 year old victim whom Hillary implied was promiscuous (how would you feel if it was your child?)
2. Frequent Clinton Foundation contributor Jeff Epstein; who also happens to be a convicted child molester who had her husband on his private jet many times that jet is referred to as "Pedo 1"
3. The condition that the Clinton's left the White House with close to $10,000 in damages, is that kind of behavior presidential?
4. Why was her first instinct to lie about Benghazi?
5. Why did the park service investigate the "suicide" of Vince Foster?
They are too busy harassing Dr. Carson about grain in the pyramids. Not to mention they overlooked Bill's rape allegations, which in my local paper had the same amount of column space as a new oil for popcorn.
...and Obama? What they won't ask him.
1. Does he think that the ACA may have something to do with the Workforce Participation Rate remaining at a 30 year low?
2. Has any of his promises concerning the ACA come true? Since nobody saved the "average" of $2500, nobody got to keep their health plan, even if they liked it, many lost their doctors.
3. Why does Michelle have the largest staff of any first lady in history? Is that really wise when the country as a whole is struggling?
Too busy implying that Dr. Carson lied about his temper as a youth.
If the media is reality then Colbert is correct that reality HAS a absolute liberal bias.
You bring up a good point: The phrase "The Media" is only useful for arguments via confirmation bias and simple-minded platitudes. If you want to actually be clear about what you're talking about you need to call it "the MAINSTREAM media" because that's soooooo much more objective...
Also, you bring up the point that percentage-wise Carson has been unfairly scrutinized, because the entirety of his public life is about a dozen or so batshit crazy statements. Let's scrutinize his years of public office and concrete policy platforrrrrrrwwwaaaaaiiiiiiitttttt...oh yeah...he's literally just a guy who has said insane stuff.
In all genuine honesty: To be fair to Carson, I really thought he just started saying hateful, idiotic things for public attention to sell books/build public speaking value. Then I heard about the whole pyramids and grain thing from 1998, and realized he was always eagerly deranged.
Re: Does it even really make a difference who the next POTUS
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 2:21 pm
by Chankgeez
Yeah, I'm not sure how Carson has gotten this far along in the race. Although, to be fair, look at the rest of 'em.
Re: Does it even really make a difference who the next POTUS
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 3:55 pm
by snipelfritz
Chankgeez wrote::lol: Yeah, I'm not sure how Carson has gotten this far along in the race. Although, to be fair, look at the rest of 'em.
Because a considerable portion of the Republican electorate are bigots.
That, combined with the Republican establishment's conscious (and smart) efforts to distance themselves from that voting bloc.
As a Democrat, the Trump/Carson rise (and resultant death of the Republican party's hopes of being taken seriously ever again) is absolutely beautiful.
But that's just me...and not all Republican voters are bigots...and I do actually kinda like Kasich.
Re: Does it even really make a difference who the next POTUS
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 3:56 pm
by D.o.S.
#NotAllRepublicans
Re: Does it even really make a difference who the next POTUS
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 4:15 pm
by snipelfritz
D.o.S. wrote:#NotAllRepublicans
It's basically the loud minority as opposed to the silent majority they'd like to imagine they are.
Re: Does it even really make a difference who the next POTUS
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 4:58 pm
by echoraven
snipelfritz wrote:...As a Democrat, the Trump/Carson rise (and resultant death of the Republican party's hopes of being taken seriously ever again) is absolutely beautiful...
As a Democrat; the "mainstream media" bias is crucial to you. Democrats don't care if Bill Clinton raped a woman, they don't care if the guy Hillary freed raped more kids, or if Bill was bopping 10 year olds with Jeff Epstein. You don't care if Hillary's own aid refers to her as "easily confused". Hardcore Democrats don't decide elections, nor do hard core Republicans. The great undecided do. The more the "mainstream media" lies and protects Hillary the easier it is for her to get elected.
But can Hillary win?
2014 was a blood bath for Democrats and more recently Kentucky was a loss for them also (though polls show Louisiana may be a win, then again polls said the same thing about Kentucky and it wasn't close). What killed Democrats was the economy, nothing more. The "mainstream media" said the economy was great and had carefully chosen numbers to prove it, but when John Q Public looked at their own financial situation, they weren't so sure and voted accordingly.
The mainstream media is your ally, with the economy still in the crapper for most Americans reality may not be.
Re: Does it even really make a difference who the next POTUS
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:07 pm
by D.o.S.
Subway Customers don't care that Jared Fogle banged kids, either.
http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/people/n_7912/#printEpstein likes to tell people that he's a loner, a man who's never touched alcohol or drugs, and one whose nightlife is far from energetic. And yet if you talk to Donald Trump, a different Epstein emerges. "I've known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,'' Trump booms from a speakerphone. "He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it -- Jeffrey enjoys his social life."
"Jeffrey is both a highly successful financier and a committed philanthropist with a keen sense of global markets and an in-depth knowledge of twenty-first-century science," Clinton says through a spokesman. "I especially appreciated his insights and generosity during the recent trip to Africa to work on democratization, empowering the poor, citizen service, and combating HIV/AIDS."
Re: Does it even really make a difference who the next POTUS
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:13 pm
by Chankgeez
Jared 2028
Re: Does it even really make a difference who the next POTUS
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 1:29 am
by Iommic Pope
I just wanted to say, "War on Christmas" is the best Chrismas related band name since US Christmas.
Re: Does it even really make a difference who the next POTUS
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 9:44 am
by echoraven
Iommic Pope wrote:I just wanted to say, "War on Christmas" is the best Chrismas related band name since US Christmas.
Wow. Just frackin' wow! That has to be the most metal band name ever!
Re: Does it even really make a difference who the next POTUS
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 1:54 pm
by casecandy
Everything in my experience tells me that, no, it does not matter who the POTUS is.
But I can't help but be very terrified at the prospect of Trump.
Re: Does it even really make a difference who the next POTUS
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 10:24 pm
by Chankgeez
Re: Does it even really make a difference who the next POTUS
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2015 10:08 am
by echoraven
If it's any comfort to you, Dr. Ben Carson may have just taken a big fat dump on his chances for the nomination. While I'm in the "let's use caution" with the whole refugee crisis, "rabid dogs" in the context he used it in was offensive to me and I have pretty damn thick skin (as a Libertarian I have to).
That remark show a marked lack of human decency and the analogy was defective.
Re: Does it even really make a difference who the next POTUS
Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 7:53 pm
by D.o.S.
Trump just did Alex Jones.
Like, there's no way he's actually going to be president, right?
Re: Does it even really make a difference who the next POTUS
Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:32 pm
by Chankgeez
Can we secede now?