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It might seem tempting to pick up a marching bass drum, and you can simply get some hardware and get smart about it, but..... I wouldn't. Bigger is not always better. While you might find people playing 28" bass drums here and there, I would say you get into diminishing returns very quickly. The overall sound can get a bit sloppy. Forget about easily finding new heads, and oh yeah, the bass drum beater only goes up sooooo far. Meaning, that even a 26" kit will put point-of-impact of the bass pedal beater just under center. Something bigger gets even further off the mark. Now, I wouldn't mind having a large concert bass drum for effect, sort of like having a gong. There are deals to be had. It's pretty close to new prices, but I would like to see a pic of the John Bonham kit that is in the Guitar Center used section. LOL, I was going to link it, but that shit is gone, gone.

Just get this.>> http://www.chicagomusicexchange.com/pro ... ue-acrylic

Then give me a call, cause I want to hear it!!! I bet I could just walk out my front door in Kent and hear it. LOL

or these >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ludwig-Stainles ... 43d7d53c7c

drums are one of those few things where bigger doesn't mean better.

ShaolinLambKiller wrote:drums are one of those few things where bigger doesn't mean better.

Yup.

In other news, I picked up a Keplinger Ching Ring the other day. Sounds pretty cool sitting on my hi hat.

Cool deal. I need to get a new china. I guess I will finally do that. it's only been a month.

Ancient, Talking about large bass drums....>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjSDTM3Q3tU

I picked up a second set of used Paiste 15" 2002 Sound Edge hi-hats @$200 for my practice kit. That's about as low as I see 2002 SE hats, so I took it. Now I need to start selling off my Zildjian As and Ks.

I'll give ya 20 apiece

Road Bull wrote:I picked up a second set of used Paiste 15" 2002 Sound Edge hi-hats @$200 for my practice kit. That's about as low as I see 2002 SE hats, so I took it. Now I need to start selling off my Zildjian As and Ks.

Very nice! I passed up a $200 2002 24" on ebay the other day. These APX's are 90% of the tone with twice the durability. In the same amount of time that I had the 2002 24 previously it all ready had 3 cracks.

Road Bull wrote:Ancient, Talking about large bass drums....>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjSDTM3Q3tU

now i want a HUGE kick and a fucking bell

lol

Everyone needs a bell, and a gong, and a large marching bass drum, and a gong stand that you can light on fire, and a...

Maybe I have been lucky, but I have had my Paiste 2002s for a while now, about 2 years, with no issues. I can play quietly, but rarely do.

I listened to the Sabian APX 24" ride on youtube. Sounds good man. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0kkPxUu-b4

I try not to buy new, so I am not taking the initial new price hit. I have been having pretty good luck finding them used.

The bigger the bass drum the tighter you have to tune it in order to have any kind of definition. I'd say 24 is probably ideal for loud and low unless you want that springy John Bonham sound. Big snares are also kind of overrated unless that's your thing. I kinda became enamored of dorky 13x7 nu metal snares, but mostly just used a regular Acrolite, or even a Pearl piccolo, which sounded like a gunshot, but sometimes felt pasted on top of the music. Big toms on the other hand, rule. I used to use a 16 and an 18.

Drums were my 3rd instrument, but I put a lot of thought into my setup and playing because I was starting from scratch as an adult. Loud, low & triplets came pretty naturally to me. Sold my set when I moved to a smaller place and had to prioritize.

yea you have to tune it tighter but at a certain point it's not going to make a difference how tight you tune it. I know more so for playing fast anything past 24 and you start to lose a ton of definition in your kick at higher speeds. it just sounds like a warbly helicopter.

maggot wrote:The bigger the bass drum the tighter you have to tune it in order to have any kind of definition. I'd say 24 is probably ideal for loud and low unless you want that springy John Bonham sound. Big snares are also kind of overrated unless that's your thing. I kinda became enamored of dorky 13x7 nu metal snares, but mostly just used a regular Acrolite, or even a Pearl piccolo, which sounded like a gunshot, but sometimes felt pasted on top of the music. Big toms on the other hand, rule. I used to use a 16 and an 18.

Drums were my 3rd instrument, but I put a lot of thought into my setup and playing because I was starting from scratch as an adult. Loud, low & triplets came pretty naturally to me. Sold my set when I moved to a smaller place and had to prioritize.

I use a semi-low tuned 26" kick drum and have tons of definition, I also use pretty much no muffling other than the built in emad stuff. I also do double bass parts and blast beats, and have no issues with definition. I also use a big snare (8x14) but I like a beefy low tuned snare thats deep but cuts. I used to use smaller drums and piccolo / soprano snares (I still have my 12x1.5" free floating snare) but like you said they feel pasted on or fake sometimes.

Ancient Astronaught wrote:

maggot wrote:The bigger the bass drum the tighter you have to tune it in order to have any kind of definition. I'd say 24 is probably ideal for loud and low unless you want that springy John Bonham sound. Big snares are also kind of overrated unless that's your thing. I kinda became enamored of dorky 13x7 nu metal snares, but mostly just used a regular Acrolite, or even a Pearl piccolo, which sounded like a gunshot, but sometimes felt pasted on top of the music. Big toms on the other hand, rule. I used to use a 16 and an 18.

Drums were my 3rd instrument, but I put a lot of thought into my setup and playing because I was starting from scratch as an adult. Loud, low & triplets came pretty naturally to me. Sold my set when I moved to a smaller place and had to prioritize.

I use a semi-low tuned 26" kick drum and have tons of definition, I also use pretty much no muffling other than the built in emad stuff. I also do double bass parts and blast beats, and have no issues with definition. I also use a big snare (8x14) but I like a beefy low tuned snare thats deep but cuts. I used to use smaller drums and piccolo / soprano snares (I still have my 12x1.5" free floating snare) but like you said they feel pasted on or fake sometimes.

That makes sense, although I think you're probably going for a livelier sound from the kick. Basically went for the early Bill Ward setup: 22" kick, normal-sized snare, giant floor tom. He had a normal-size rack tom, though, and I had a 16" (sometimes a 14"). I woulda liked a 24" kick but mainly because it looks more badass. Except for the snares, ride cymbal and pedals, I made it out of hand me downs from "real" drummers (who for some reason would never actually play). At first I wrapped it for uniformity, then I stripped it and stained it for the same. I miss drums!