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[UglyCasanova]

It's just revolver 1 and 2, I think, that were fv-1.

[codetocontra]

I stand corrected. Piotr replied to me this morning and none of the Revolvers use the FV-1 Spin chip.

[cbm]

The Particle 2 manual is up on the Red Panda site, along with a firmware update.
http://www.redpandalab.com/downloads/

[cbm]

The Particle 2 is even better with the web editor. All I can say, after using the Modeless mode is: wow. I'm considering building a MIDI controller specifically for using it in Modeless mode.

The implications of the Modeless behavior was lost on me at first. From what I can gather, there is one underlying algorithm that services all the modes, and the front panel controls are mapped differently for each mode. In addition, when switching modes, the un-mapped parameters are set to something safe. When it's set to Modeless you can tweak parameters that would normally not be available: e.g. Detune at any time.

The web editor really opens new doors for the Particle.

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FYI: if you're typing the URL of the web editor, be sure you're using HTTPS and not plain old HTTP. Chrome disables MIDI for an insecure connection.

[jondom22]

Been battling a little sickness the last couple of days and got into the web editor for the Particle V2. Started recording some sounds, and for some reason ended up making this terrible new jack swing 90s fusion world beat with a bunch of particle patches...damn you nyquil (sry nyquil, i luv u).

EDIT: Added some solo guitar improv to hear some more of the what the pedal can do in modeless setting and with expression.

https://soundcloud.com/jon-dom/sets/red ... article-v2

hope you find some cool sounds in there, despite the new world yanni lululemon yoga vibes

[Jwar]

Piotr confirmed that the chorus effect I dug no longer is in the box! NOOOOOOOO! LOL!

He said in order to update the length of time he had to alter the algorithm he was previously using because the signal would degrade too much with a longer time. So, it kind of has it but not the sound I remember. That's not the reason I bought the pedal but it is kind of a bummer.

He also told me that I can use CV up to 3.3v on this guy but would need to measure my cv controller to find where that voltage can go over and not to exceed it. I may or may not ever try the CV. Not sure if it would be worth the risk. I also have to open the box up and unhook the ring connection from the expression jack prior to using it, so that's just probably not worth it. Oh well! Figured I'd ask at least! I may do it if I end up keeping this for the long run, but the likelihood of that is pretty slim right now. It's not really working out for me the way I wanted. The good news is though that I can flip it one of you and you can miss out on those horrible shipping fees.

[kenoflife]

Hey guys - I'm new to this forum and thread but I joined specifically as I had a Hexe revolver question or two...

I've had a Hexe Revolver II for years (actually had 2) and its the pedal i can't let go of - I live on just the last 2 modes (speed up down/reverse) and swoop into and out of it even with rock songs to create palettes of chorusy thing with short time and all kinds of other things with the time maxed (which isn't much).
I'm now able to get the DX - and realizing it actually isn't that much cheaper than getting one used on reverb - but regardless I just want/need/afford one Revolver....

I'd sure like more time available - and Piotr said the DX would be better for this. But I know in so many instances that when I got the 'advanced' and improved version of pedal something is often lost. It does go back to the '1 second mode' but I'm wondering if something will be lost in tone or feel if I just jump into the DX and let go of the II. Again - I only live in the last 2 settings - so don't care about losing other glitch randomness....thoughts and experience appreciated!~!

[axdxm]

Of the Raptio type stutter pedals, which of them has the best latency (reaction time) for grabbing samples?

[UglyCasanova]

On the FV-1 stuff, which includes Raptio and almost every other stutter pedal, your audio is always going to the buffer, so they're all equally instant in my experience. Shorter sample times can make it seem snappier simple because it follows in such rapid succession after you engage the effect, but I've never experienced a stutter pedal that's been slow to play back your sample.

Edit : Clearing the buffer, on the other hand, I wish there was a knob or switch for (dual buffers?) because sometimes it's fun to release the footswitch for a few ms only to add more audio to the buffer, other times it would be nice if the buffer cleared itself immediately after releasing the footswitch so you could, for example, go from one root note to another real fast without them clashing in the same sample. Idk. Random thought.

[lordgalvar]

You can do stuff like that on the Aria ADD-100 and a bunch of older "hold" mode delays that switch back into delay mode after canceling the hold. To clear the buffer quickly, just use less feedback and shorter delay times (or bypass quickly, which is easy on the Aria).

The problems with the Aria are in the mixing and delay volume. It's locked in at way below unity and there is no dry kill or blend. The input volume is pre delay and the delays are always like 50% of the input volume.

[whoismarykelly]

Of the Raptio type stutter pedals, which of them has the best latency (reaction time) for grabbing samples?

Hexe Revolver is dramatically better than a Raptio and is capable of capturing a longer chunk of audio. The Raptio just grabs some pitch info and is very percussive.

[UglyCasanova]

Good point, LG!

Hexe Revolver is dramatically better than a Raptio

I'd much rather have a Raptio than a Revolver, personally. Idk if better means more preferable to you or just capable of more complex tasks with higher fidelity. Carry on.

You're right that it doesn't have any envelope, which makes it choppy, but what do you mean by 'just grabs some pitch info'? It samples. Do you mean for the freeze mode?

[oldangelmidnight]

I seem to remember that the Malekko Charlie Foxtrot was pretty quick but I never really used it in momentary or manual trigger mode.

[whoismarykelly]

Good point, LG!

Hexe Revolver is dramatically better than a Raptio

I'd much rather have a Raptio than a Revolver, personally. Idk if better means more preferable to you or just capable of more complex tasks with higher fidelity. Carry on.

You're right that it doesn't have any envelope, which makes it choppy, but what do you mean by 'just grabs some pitch info'? It samples. Do you mean for the freeze mode?

So a Revolver will grab everything that happens while you hold the switch down and dump the buffer every time you capture a new sample. To me, this is the most ideal situation for that effect because the pedal is just manipulating what you put in without changing it so to speak. The Raptio doesn't dump the buffer after every press but cuts a bunch of volume. I think its basically working like delay feedback but I don't know how the program is written. This means if you hit the switch multiple times in quick succession its just stacking what you play with the old stuff but not with any level of control so you can quickly have a mess. I also don't think the Raptio captures the length of the buffer cleanly. Usually it seems like a higher setting is just sort of a pulse width modulated kind of thing where its not capturing much more audio, its just spacing the tiny blips out. But it also isn't great at capturing something the instant you play like a Revolver. If you sustain a note and then hit the Raptio it handles things much better.

So in the context of the question here, a Revolver will have the least latency in capturing what you just played by a wide margin. The only other pedal that comes close is a Tensor. If you play and hit a Raptio as you play each note it will just grab a small chunk of what you played which is mostly just a pitch and some noise rather than a nice tidy microloop of the note you played. Neither is necessarily 'better' but it needs to work how you expect it to for what you are playing. I use both on my board precisely because the Raptio is ugly and gnarly and the Revolver is accurate and clean in what it captures. Plus the Revolver latches.

[UglyCasanova]

Fair take