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Re: Just Jazz!
Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 9:42 pm
by $harkToootth
I listened to like the best free jazz driving to my Grandparent's house a couple weeks ago. Didn't get the name...don't remember the station so I can't cruise their archive...real shame. There was two horn doing the same scaling but one was slightly out of tune with the other so it sort of inter modulated with each other. Really cool use of silence too. Any one have any suggestions for something like that?
Also, going down a Braxton black hole lately.
Re: Just Jazz!
Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 9:58 pm
by Dandolin
Sounds interesting? Backing band? Modal with free play up top, or total freeform? Your description makes me think of a free jazz equivalent of Steve Reich's phasing stuff.
Last cd I bought for myself (this summer? damn I've just become fully post cd-buyer I think) was a recent Braxton 4 cd set for like six bucks...great way to go out....
Re: Just Jazz!
Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 10:01 pm
by Chankgeez
Dandolin wrote:Agreed on Getachew; dat Lonnie!!!; and I hadn't checked that particular One from M. Chalumeau!
Love this early Clarence side with Satch and Sid together pre-revival era:
[youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVt2tI8Adl4[/youtube]
Yeah, those Clarence Williams bands were great.
Also, I did not know that he's buried in Farmingdale.
$harkToootth wrote:I listened to like the best free jazz driving to my Grandparent's house a couple weeks ago. Didn't get the name...don't remember the station so I can't cruise their archive...real shame. There was two horn doing the same scaling but one was slightly out of tune with the other so it sort of inter modulated with each other. Really cool use of silence too. Any one have any suggestions for something like that?
Also, going down a Braxton black hole lately.
Braxton is a black hole.
You definitely should've found out what you were listening to. Now I'm curious. From what you're describing maybe Steve Lacy comes to mind.
[youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jmrQGLZ1bM[/youtube]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jmrQGLZ1bM
I will look for more Steve Lacy stuff I really like.
Re: Just Jazz!
Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 10:03 pm
by $harkToootth
The backing band could be just as over the top and sparse as the two horns. Just drums and a bass (I think). Yes, modal play up top. It would go freeform, kind of comeback together, and then the weird intermodulation thing.
The station was cutting in and out so that kind of added something (I like noisy stuff
)
Re: Just Jazz!
Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 10:04 pm
by Chankgeez
Re: Just Jazz!
Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 10:04 pm
by $harkToootth
Chankgeez wrote:$harkToootth wrote:I listened to like the best free jazz driving to my Grandparent's house a couple weeks ago. Didn't get the name...don't remember the station so I can't cruise their archive...real shame. There was two horn doing the same scaling but one was slightly out of tune with the other so it sort of inter modulated with each other. Really cool use of silence too. Any one have any suggestions for something like that?
Also, going down a Braxton black hole lately.
Braxton is a black hole.
You definitely should've found out what you were listening to. Now I'm curious. From what you're describing maybe Steve Lacy comes to mind.
[youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jmrQGLZ1bM[/youtube]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jmrQGLZ1bM
I will look for more Steve Lacy stuff I really like.
You've never steered my wrong Chank
...Listening now...
I am 'Thankful' for you!
Re: Just Jazz!
Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 10:22 pm
by $harkToootth
CHANK YOU SICK FUCK!!! I'm not even fucking around, this was it!!!
Around 09:02 - 'Sounding familiar'
Exactly 09:43 - LITERALLY IT
I am eternally grateful!!! Thank you so much!!!
Re: Just Jazz!
Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 10:27 pm
by Chankgeez
Re: Just Jazz!
Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 10:29 pm
by $harkToootth
15:06 is another example. Love parts like that.
I seriously can't believe this just happened...
"Your arrangements for two horns seem to be very… well, dissonant is the wrong word, but you know what ! mean - you use unusual intervals.
Well, almost everything I've written for quite a few years now is in seconds. It's like one line, but it's thickened by another line quite adjacent to it. There are two kinds of seconds, major and minor, and they both fall into what's known as dissonant category, which is a useless category. Actually, to me they ring like bells if they're in the right order, if they're placed right and if they're pitched right. However, it's much more complicated than that and I couldn't explain it really - I mean, I could show you on the paper and all that, but it doesn't matter. It's a way of thickening the single line or it's a way of speaking with a forked tongue, if you like."
http://www.emanemdisc.com/addenda/stevelacy.html
Re: Just Jazz!
Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 10:49 pm
by Chankgeez
^Good find on that.
Yeah, very difficult to beat that combo of Steve Lacy and Roswell Rudd.
Here's some good stuff with Steve Lacy and Third Person:
[youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rb4Xo1cCFCw[/youtube]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rb4Xo1cCFCw
Re: Just Jazz!
Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 10:53 pm
by $harkToootth
Thanks. I just finished 'Trickles' so this one ^^^^ is up next. Thanks again!!!
Re: Just Jazz!
Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:04 pm
by Chankgeez
I posted "Trickles" earlier in the thread. Both the version from that album and a solo version.
Here's another version of "Clinkers" :
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZ2RdGcKrrQ[/youtube]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZ2RdGcKrrQ
… and from an album with another great band (Denis Charles & Ronnie Boykins):
[youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMo0K8UnQIg[/youtube]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMo0K8UnQIg
Re: Just Jazz!
Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:28 pm
by Dandolin
Chank ftw. Lacy/Rudd 4ever.
Also, Farmingdale Jazz Cemetery Tour. CW: St. Charles; Trane: Pinelawn....
Re: Just Jazz!
Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:57 pm
by Dandolin
More than half sure this was posted preves; mebbe even by me, but eff it, I'm hiding from my emailbox which has like 200 emails re: black Friday gearabrations and need to stay focused on the what is w/out fuzzbusters:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uOkxKDXcJA[/youtube]
Re: Just Jazz!
Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 12:04 am
by Dandolin
Dandolin wrote:Chank ftw. Lacy/Rudd 4ever.
Also, Farmingdale Jazz Cemetery Tour. CW: St. Charles; Trane: Pinelawn....
Saint Charles...
Saint James Black
Saint James Booker
Saint Professor Longhair
Saint Gerald Tillman
