My fuzz prototype is no longer a prototype

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BetterOffShred wrote:I mean .. it blows.. :erm:

Dude you'll get one. Have faith.

I know, I will, I believe!


I almost did last week, but I had to be responsible with my money. Buy a Reverb for BILF, you know. And well, it's not a pedal I technically *need*. It is one I want though.



I usually get lucky (in life) and maybe someone will trade me for one. We will see.
If not, there will be other fuzzes to fall in love with.
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$harkToootth wrote:I hope this helps.
To anyone starting with this pedal, I would...
1. Dial back 'Edges' and 'Expanse' -> Start ALL THE WAY Counter Clockwise
2. Keep all EQ knobs at 12 o'clock

Then take it from there. That setting alone should not give you any 'sputtering'

Thanks. I probably should have written that somewhere.

P.S. If people are interested, I can collect and add more "presets" to the online manual. Have any of you found secret settings that you want to share with the world?
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I'd be happy to add those settings to the printable manual for anyone interested as well. I never write down my settings, but maybe that should be my New Year's resolution.
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Honestly, I could have sworn it was there. I don't think I'm intuitive enough to figure that out myself :lol:
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I love this pedal, but man does it hate humbuckers. :facepalm:
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Inconuucl wrote:I love this pedal, but man does it hate humbuckers. :facepalm:
It hates too much input volume. Roll back the volume on your guitar and your humbuckers will bloom anew.
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I've been preaching the volume knob for pages ;)
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Got a live one on Reverb - - not too bad on price:

http://reverb.com/item/10272569-el-diab ... -equalizer
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PeterBregman wrote:
Inconuucl wrote:I love this pedal, but man does it hate humbuckers. :facepalm:
It hates too much input volume. Roll back the volume on your guitar and your humbuckers will bloom anew.
Will there be any changes to that on v2? I play only active bass, and it hated my basses for sure.
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Another suggestion on v2, change the color of the LEDS, please. The red ones are blinding. Nothing a little tape can't fix but. :snax:
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Inconuucl wrote:Another suggestion on v2, change the color of the LEDS, please. The red ones are blinding. Nothing a little tape can't fix but. :snax:
I had my LED changed out. Yikes! :cool:
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Ok, what I'm hearing is that you all want brighter LEDs on the v2. Got it.

Not sure about any changes. The input sensitivity is kinda fundamental to the workings of the pedal. Seriously though - turning down the volume on the way in makes a big difference. I guess I could add an "input" pot, but it would just do exactly the same as your guitar pot and add noise.
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PeterBregman wrote:Ok, what I'm hearing is that you all want brighter LEDs on the v2. Got it.

Not sure about any changes. The input sensitivity is kinda fundamental to the workings of the pedal. Seriously though - turning down the volume on the way in makes a big difference. I guess I could add an "input" pot, but it would just do exactly the same as your guitar pot and add noise.
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I have found several CBA pedals to be equally as sensitive to the input volume. The Brothers and Spectre were the biggest culprits. Why is that? I want to hit these fuckers with a hot signal. I even use a buffer buster and it still fucks the pedals pretty bad. Even with my volume rolled back they didn't work like they ought to. I know because I've heard other people using them with passive instruments. Do they not have enough head room?
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Jesus Was a Robot wrote:I have found several CBA pedals to be equally as sensitive to the input volume. The Brothers and Spectre were the biggest culprits. Why is that? I want to hit these fuckers with a hot signal. I even use a buffer buster and it still fucks the pedals pretty bad. Even with my volume rolled back they didn't work like they ought to. I know because I've heard other people using them with passive instruments. Do they not have enough head room?
Active bases - especially modern ones with super hot pickups - basically put out line-level. Most pedals are only running off 9V and are biased in a way that gives them less than rail-to-rail headroom, *especially* if they're drive/dist/fuzz pedals and/or if they're discrete (discrete circuits typically don't have the same headroom as optimized opamps on the same B+). Line-level can be around 3Vpp on average, and can easily (especially with bass) spike to 6Vpp or more. So to answer your question, no, many pedals do not have enough headroom to accommodate signals that big, because well...they can't.

When you say "Even with my volume rolled back they didn't work like they ought to.," what do you mean? Are the pedals still overloading, or is it more of a tonal issue? Another part of the problem might be the extreme low frequencies active basses can put out (often subsonic). Sounds like you need a special buffer/attenuator/HPF pedal. I'll build you one for $1,000.
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