The Doom Room: ILF Edition

[odontophobia]

Hello there! It's been quite a while since I've been around these parts. Finally getting my guitar building shit together after about a year outta luthiery school. I started a Fenderbird style build two days ago a la Entwistle, but six string. Check out @quintanaguitars on Instagram for build progress/repair work/whatever.

sweet deal duder. i'll be sure to check it out. thought your stuff outta school was cool.

[conky]

Does anyone have their guitars wired up to reduce treble bleed when rolling off the volume knob? I've been thinking of doing the 50's wiring on my LP, just wondering how well it works. Dialed in the prefect dirt tone this morning but when I roll my volume off to clean it up the highs go with it and it's a tad bit muddy.

50's wiring will help get more treble in the signal when the volume is full up. If you want to turn the volume down you should do a treble bypass mod. Requires adding a capacitor and resister on the volume pot's output lug to ground, wired in either series or parallel. Many values to choose from. Common values would be 120k to 220k, and 0.68nf to 2.2nf. The best way to decide is buy some components, take the cover off of the control area, and use alligator clips to try values. The larger the capacitor the more treble comes through, to a point where it will sound like it boosts the treble as the volume goes down. The resistor will smooth the taper of the pot a bit, lower resistance will smooth it more while higher resistance will add more mids and bass through as the volume goes down. If you aren't into experimenting and using your own ears, common mods include 150k and 1.0nf, or 220k and 2.2nf. Also might want different values for the different pickups. Hope that helps.

Thanks, I'll give those a try.

[louderthangod]

I've also heard from others that the vintage pickup wiring also gets you a more even volume roll off when you turn it down while maintaining the treble. I have a several of the RS Guitarworks volume/tone/cap kits and the vintage ones are great...I don't see any advantage in the modern wiring at all. The only complaint about my EGC's is that my volume knob is essentially useless. I"d be better off with just an on/off switch because as I turn it down I get very little volume drop/clean up and then it's just off.

[Iommic Pope]

Audio vs linear taper, yo.

[codetocontra]

Correction...wire the components between the pickup lug and output lug, not the ground. Sorry. My post has been edited.

[doctorpoopenstein420]

Hello there! It's been quite a while since I've been around these parts. Finally getting my guitar building shit together after about a year outta luthiery school. I started a Fenderbird style build two days ago a la Entwistle, but six string. Check out @quintanaguitars on Instagram for build progress/repair work/whatever.

sweet deal duder. i'll be sure to check it out. thought your stuff outta school was cool.

Thank you <3

[D.o.S.]

Any New Daughters of Zion stuff in the works? Are you in that band with Whiskey?

[van_muddlestein]

Does anyone have their guitars wired up to reduce treble bleed when rolling off the volume knob? I've been thinking of doing the 50's wiring on my LP, just wondering how well it works. Dialed in the prefect dirt tone this morning but when I roll my volume off to clean it up the highs go with it and it's a tad bit muddy.

I did when I had my gretsch guitars back in the day, but to be honest, I have no idea what that mod consists of. Someone else did the work, as it was a little out of my depth. It makes a huge world of difference, though, and it's a highly recommended mod if you mess with your volume knob with any frequency.

[dazedbyday]

The guy in Rosetta posted on his tech blog about how he set up his EGC guitar:

"Current wiring in my EGC. This is the Les Paul “50s wiring” on steroids, with 390pf/100k treble bleed networks going from the top of the volume pots to the top of the tone pots. Tone and volume pot wipers connect together, and to the switch/output. Bottoms of the tone pots connect to .022uF caps to ground. This way, you get the benefits of a treble bleed network, but the tone pots still behave in the traditional way.

Volume pots are 500k linear, Bourns Model 95 sealed plastic element units, which are the absolute best guitar pot I’ve found, bar none. They crush the PEC/Gibson/whatever stuff in feel, taper, and reliability. They’re better than pots that cost twice as much. Tone pots are CTS 1M linear with push/pull switches for coil-splitting on both pickups."

I put the 50's wiring in my telemaster and like it better than modern wiring.

[Iommic Pope]

Any New Daughters of Zion stuff in the works? Are you in that band with Whiskey?

This.

[doctorpoopenstein420]

Any New Daughters of Zion stuff in the works? Are you in that band with Whiskey?

This.

Yup, it's just us two. We're working on some new stuff, hopefully we'll have it finished and recorded fairly soon. And I started tuning down to F# so recordings will sound fatter.

[emptyparadigm]

Guys, I...I think I've entered a new stage of life.

I finally have no more GAS. Of course, doesn't mean I wouldn't like to have this or that, but I don't feel compelled to try out new gear or anything. I'm actually slimming down the horde of my own accord. I'm down to four tube amps (two of which are Carvins, which are what both Phil and I both use in Khemmis now) and six guitars. Went from a massive pedalboard (PedalPad XL) to a PedalTrain classic 2.



I'm excited and scared.

[Iommic Pope]

You have a Black Forest, you don't really need anything else.
How's that Ambience reverb?

[emptyparadigm]

Man I really dig it. It sound great with dirt and absolutely stellar with cleans. It's on the new album a few times because our producer was blown away by its variety of sounds and overall richness. Can't say enough good stuff about that pedal.

[Iommic Pope]

Thanks man!
Sounds rad!