ILFcast - The Return!!!

[comesect2.0]

audios great.

[Eivind August]

Well fuck, I say "Yeah." a lot.

[jrfox92]

"That sounds like a very praise and worship soup"
Motherfucker, have you heard of Sleep?!

[01010111]

I like the random pedal clicking. I do the same thing if I'm in front of my music stuff and talking to someone on the phone/skype

[D.o.S.]

so many gems in Brands/EA's chat.

SO MANY.

[Disarm D'arcy]

Yeah currently listening to that. Lovely chat you guys had

[Disarm D'arcy]

Also, you are totally right about the French sucking collectively at foreign languages.

Comes down to two main facts:
a) massive culture budgets, that allowed for dubbing everything in order to give more democratic access to art, especially movies (subtitling on TV for exemple is rare, and reserved to stuff nobody watches or languages too foreign to actually dub them adequately for lack of qualified personnel).
b) rigid equalitarian school system, which has it's perks (decent public education available everywhere in France, however homogenous and uninspiring), but is totally incapable of teaching languages adequately because of said rigidity, and the fact that the people qualified to teach a foreign language were often taught with rigidity as well, and repeat the cycle. I've said that in the past but if I had relied on school to teach me English, I'd be excellent at doing grammar exercices in a book, but much like most of the people I know, totally incapable of actually having a conversation. I actually never had one in class. The closest was listening to a tape about Brian being located in the bathroom and filling a worksheet that asked where Brian was located. Having meaningful conversations in a foreign language requires to think in it, and not to think in French, loosely build up the gist of what you want to say in your head, and applying relearned structures and grammar rules to do your best at expressing it which is unnatural at best and totally incomprehensible in most cases.

The worst part is that there's is this trend in English teachers to justify their existence by saying that it's convenient for traveling and doing business in a globalized economy. What they don't realize is that they're actually building a mindset in which they don't even teach English but globish. The point is not to understand something new (because thoughts cannot be articulated in the same way in all languages, which requires to think different, for lack of similar structure or words not even existing) and broaden your intellectual horizon. It is to be able to buy souvenirs in an airport duty free, which doesn't require much of a conversation as well. Subject. Verb. Complement. Breath 3 times between each words. You're the buyer anyway, so in this context the seller will most likely do their best to understand your incomprehensible mumblings because they want your money. Wait, why are we even teaching languages?

[UglyCasanova]

In both podcasts, recurring themes of pink floyd, shitting on modulation and lots of scandy*..

Yeah, I noticed that as well.

We actually talk about Pink Floyd in part 2. I'll start editing that soon. It should be a lot shorter, me thinks.

EDIT: IEatCats. Where you at boy! We need more voicemails to our podcasts. We're running out. Quick people! Get drunk and call!

[fcknoise]

Also, you are totally right about the French sucking collectively at foreign languages.

Yeah, but the same goes for Germany and your neighbors. It would've been for the UK if say, french was the global language.

It was really fun recording this, I'd gladly record another episode with anyone

[Eivind August]

So, do we get money from the gin people?

[Disarm D'arcy]

Also, you are totally right about the French sucking collectively at foreign languages.

Yeah, but the same goes for Germany and your neighbors. It would've been for the UK if say, french was the global language.

It was really fun recording this, I'd gladly record another episode with anyone

In my experience Germans are pretty good at languages. Like last week a chatted up a group of German tourists and they were all fluent in at least one other language, either English or French. It's consistent with my experience of random interactions during my stay in Germany. I suck at German, I understand it but can't speak it any good, so I needed people who understood either French or English to have an actual conversation with them.

As for Italy and Spain, my interactions have been limited to foreign exchange students or people in touristy areas which is not at all representative of anything.

[fcknoise]

So, do we get money from the gin people?

I'd be happy with a few more bottles, it's fucking amazing

[Disarm D'arcy]

In my experience Germans were pretty bad at English.

Like even 20 yr olds couldn't hold conversations and answer simple questions.

That's because it's not necessarily a foreign language they learn. For exemple, in Saarland, French is the usual default. And if I compare my level in German and the German's level in French from when I went on an exchange there, the French are clearly ridiculously incompetent.

I mean theoretically, in France, you could be a high school graduate, which requires learning 2 foreign languages, and not having actually spent one minute in an English class. Like you could take Spanish and German, or Italian and Mandarin.

[fcknoise]

"That sounds like a very praise and worship soup"
Motherfucker, have you heard of Sleep?!

How did I miss this comment. Definitely the best soup for doom

[odontophobia]

you guys are making me feel really inadequate about my language learnings.
my spanish, 10 years removed from college, is mostly rubbish.
i got by in spain by pre-thinking everything i had to say. answering questions that weren't basic was a nightmare. i usually stared blank faced at whomever was talking to me.