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skullservant wrote:So probably sometime in 2015 we will get the ball rolling once our lives slow down

oldangelmidnight wrote:

skullservant wrote:So probably sometime in 2015 we will get the ball rolling once our lives slow down

Once baby Dirge learns to solder.

phantasmagorovich wrote:

Eivind August wrote: The friendliness of GB people is legendary

monkeydancer wrote:

phantasmagorovich wrote:

Eivind August wrote: The friendliness of GB people is legendary

It is?

It's odd to see us lumped in with the US, I often find americans a bit too friendly.

goroth wrote:

Eivind August wrote:Wouldn't it be cool if we lived in a society where you actually greeted people and talked to them regardless of wheter you knew them or not?

I agree! That's especially difficult to do in Scandinavia. I dunno what it's like in Norwegian, but small talk, in Swedish, is directly translated to "cold talk", which I think says a fair bit about Swedes' attitude to small talk. For non-Scandis: we don't say shit to anyone unless it is made overly explicit that it is ok to say something, or unless we are drunk. Then we socialise like normal people.

But it's interesting which things allow you to randomly talk with people.
Children+pram = instant conversation. The younger the children the more people talk with you.
I think dog ownership has the same effect, but I don't own a dog.
I've noticed running/jogging has that effect in some countries, but here running is apparently a solitary activity and you should in no way acknowledge your fellow runners.

@Tris re the total lack of empathy and general manners- it's ok. You're Dutch.

Doctor X wrote:

Tristan wrote:Out of sheer curiosity and sincere wonder and interest I asked my last question, on these same grounds I'd like to ask my following question:
Do you guys don't want to give your thoughts on my question because I'm seriously off the mark in your opinion or is it mostly because you don't wish to discuss that topic in this particular context?

your question was not off the mark and was perfectly reasonable.
yes, out of the millions of harassments that the video says took place in that famous 10 hour walk, in the 2 minute edit that is presumably all the worst harassments, quite a few of them are someone simply saying hello.
there are also rude macho scumbags making remarks or leering advances, often getting angry and aggressive at the lack of response, and some really creepy weirdos with the unnerving following.
but there is a clear difference between the leering and aggressive intrusions and remarks, and the guys saying 'hello' and 'how are you'.
why they have put them in the video i dont know, maybe there wasnt enough footage of the bad stuff, or maybe its a deliberate attempt to paint everything as harassment.
there is a poisonous aspect to fundamentalist political correctness and all the various isms that it just as oppressive and damaging as fundamentalist religion and politics.
we are all human beings and sharing the same space and at some point there is a negotiation in our interactions. sometimes people offer an old man seat on a bus, sometimes they dont. sometimes people move out of the way to let you pass, sometimes they stand blocking doorways. sometimes people are rude for no reason, sometimes they say hello.
it is confusing and random at times, we have evolved from living in smaller tribes where you know everybody, to living in a world of strangers, endless strangers every day who you will never see again.
again, there is a clear difference between saying hello in a friendly or hopeful way and being aggressive and intrusive.
putting it all in together is just making any differentiation between manners and rudeness meaningless.

Tristan wrote: @Tris re the total lack of empathy and general manners- it's ok. You're Dutch.

neonblack wrote:You should call it the ILFTER.

D.o.S. wrote:I'm only bumping this because I just spent all day trying to figure out a good way to ingratiate a Polivoks into my rig before remembering this thread.

There's no real news to report. Sorry dooods.
edit: but this name though:

neonblack wrote:You should call it the ILFTER.