The Doom Room: ILF Edition

[AngryGoldfish]

Woofy Muff... emmmm... Box Of War from Wren and Cuff maybe?

One of my favourite bands uses an OR120 and a Big Muff, but I don't know which one. It's Giant Squid. They have that perfectly awesome 'foggy' tone that woofs till it shits.

[Droneforbreakfast]

Giant Squid uses a Black Russian Big Muff. an old Green Sovtek will be just as good if not better too. there are so many awesome versions at this point. Mojo Hand Collossos, Blakemore Deus Ex-Machina, the new Arc one... hard to choose.

[sergiomunoz74]

I have the Arc one but woofy is the last thing I would call it. Sounds kinda like a slightly fuzzier version of my rat honestly. My musket was mega woofy if set right, that's why I loved it so much with my bassman, it just didn't vibe right with the or120. I also don't like playing with my orange cranked as I require the clean sounds to be as pleasing as possible with the stuff I play.

I wish I knew how Giant Squid uses it because their sound is really nice, nice and woofy. I'll look around maybe I'm realizing that I don't want a faithful recreation of a muff but someones take on it. Like the Musket or Pharoah or something.

[Droneforbreakfast]

a Pharaoh would do that for sure............. but first, how do you EQ your amp? what sort of speakers? what sort of guitars are you using?

that's a massive thing for that kind of tone right there, it sounds like the amp is breathing in and out and moving a lot of air, that's the main, most important thing about that sort of tone. it also comes from the basslines themselves and the interplay with the cello.

[CaptainBoxman]

I always got good tone out of my Pharaoh through my Orange. It just had such a high noise floor that it became really impractical to have.

[sergiomunoz74]

There are questions that I should've answered first 2x12 at home 4x12 at practice. Classic lead 80's at home, vintage 30's at practice, Les Paul at the moment. I generally Eq my amp full bass, a quarter on the treble, and the F.A.C knob one click away from the left most choice. If I've been doing it wrong this whole time or something to better my tone would be awesome! I'm starting to sell almost all my pedals besides the essentials just because it doesn't really vibe at all. Might be just my head tricking me though or my gear.

If the noise floor is bad, then I probably won't. That's how I feel about my arc versus just boosting with my rat. If I boost with my rat I get almost the same tone out of my orange compared to if I click on the muff with a relatively clean orange but the muff has a bigger noise floor.

[Droneforbreakfast]

never had that noise problem with my Pharaoh, and i boost it everytime.

[new05002]

mines not bad. I do have 2 early # pharaohs and they are okay noise floor wise.

[AngryGoldfish]

The Pharaoh is slightly noisy, but it's perfectly usable. You could just role the gain and volume back a tad on the pedal and still have a big woolly tone.

[new05002]

my usually settings are fuzz=max, diodes in (i have the old versions with no Ge diodes), Tone 1 full CCW, Tone 2 3/4 or adjust to treble taste, volume 1/2 to 3/4

[CaptainBoxman]

I had 2 Pharaohs that suffered from it, so it's likely that it didn't like the electricity or something. They both received power from different sources, different houses, different supplies, played through different amps, different signals, different pedal orders, humbuckers, singles, different guitars with different electronics, different cables; I went through every combination possible and they went "SSSSHHHHHHHHHH" all the time, regardless.

Who can say?

[sergiomunoz74]

The thing is I'm looking for something I can work to the heavy sludgey tones. I generally use my orange at slight break-up when I attack hard, then I boost it with a rat with mostly volume and a tiny tiny amount of dirt then I want to hit it with a fuzz that stacks well to get into the quasi-infinite sustain, and woofy tones. I can get that with just my rat and cranked or120 but I use my cleans to much to keep walking over to my amp and moving the dials.

I guess it's either this or a bluebeard possibly but the pharoah sounds interested if the noise floor isn't bad. I generally don't crank anything on a pedal since I'm generally gain staging. I might try and figure out if I can make a musket work with my amp again.

[AngryGoldfish]

I had 2 Pharaohs that suffered from it, so it's likely that it didn't like the electricity or something. They both received power from different sources, different houses, different supplies, played through different amps, different signals, different pedal orders, humbuckers, singles, different guitars with different electronics, different cables; I went through every combination possible and they went "SSSSHHHHHHHHHH" all the time, regardless.

Who can say?

I didn't mean to be 'Doubting Daniel', sorry.

[samzadgan]

i run my pharaoh through an orange th30 (the clean channel is splendid) and cranked it sounds great.

about the black forest - i agree, but i was thinking you could boost the pharaoh with the black forest and you'd have a high gain pharaoh (LSTR-ish) instead of getting
the sarc and having one pedal for low volumes one for high volumes you could have 2 different peddles and just boost the pharoah for low volume.

just a thought.

yeah i get your point on that...i did have a listen to the Coven...and the review does sound nice...but even boosted it wasn't quite the LSTR. It was definitely heavy, but just sounded a little different...for obvious reasons.

[sergiomunoz74]

I think for now as I seem to have this weird can't find exactly what I'm looking for type deal. I'm just gonna run the OR120 a tiny bit more cranked, and play with the volume knob on my guitar. Gain staging fuzzes as proven a bit too difficult. I've never flipped a pedal as fast as I have fuzz/dist pedals.