The Confessions Thread

[DarkAxel]

EDIT: I just need a synth, and a sequencer, and a drum machine. I have the obligatory hipster-macbook already, just no idea what to use it for.

you miss the point

you HAVE IT and can DISPLAY IT ON STAGE. that's enough

confession: tonight's dreams were the most weird shit i've dreamed of for a long time. Also first dreams after a long time i remember

[Ayrton]

When I get my salary, the first thing I buy is books. In fact, I have more books than clothes.

[jfrey]

Just two comments on the whole "devaluing" remarks thing.

1) You can't "devalue" another person. Value, esteem, confidence, etc. These are all internal things. Another person can neither increase nor decrease them. If a person "makes" you feel bad, it just means that you were lacking in self-esteem to begin with.

2) It's entirely possible that it is just the women I know, but in my experience women are incredibly worse with those sorts of comments than men. It's like non-stop whenever I go out with my platonic girl-friends. So it seems kind of hypocritical for anyone to have a problem with it.

I prefer to play bass through guitar amps.

Do this every day. I started doing it when a friend of mine had my guitar amp for like two months. Now, even though I have it back, I still use my bass amp.

EDIT: Oh... that's the opposite...

When I get my salary, the first thing I buy is books. In fact, I have more books than clothes.

I do this too. Hardcore.

And, my confession of the day - which I have put in two wrong threads so far... But finally, here it is:

The things I do just to be always being "productive" sometimes seem strange even to me.

I'm currently copying a book by hand. With my left hand. I'm right-handed.

I've also switched the mouse of my computer over to the left side, started brushing my teeth left-handed, etc.

So... yeah...

Oh, and I'm reading a math book. You know, for fun...

[snipelfritz]

who the fuck do you think you are DaVinci?

[smile_man]

Just two comments on the whole "devaluing" remarks thing.

1) You can't "devalue" another person. Value, esteem, confidence, etc. These are all internal things. Another person can neither increase nor decrease them. If a person "makes" you feel bad, it just means that you were lacking in self-esteem to begin with.

2) It's entirely possible that it is just the women I know, but in my experience women are incredibly worse with those sorts of comments than men. It's like non-stop whenever I go out with my platonic girl-friends. So it seems kind of hypocritical for anyone to have a problem with it.

Okay, and I'm sure being a white male you know all about systematic oppression and shit like that. I got you dawg, you're right.

[jfrey]

Okay, and I'm sure being a white male you know all about systematic oppression and shit like that. I got you dawg, you're right.

Jesus christ I hate when people say things like this.

Principles and logic don't change with your colour, or gender.

What you would call "devaluing" remarks, are things I would never say. Not with a gun to my head. But not because I think they would make a person feel bad or some bullshit reason like that. It is simply classless.

[smile_man]

Well, I don't know what you expect people to say when you try an speak from a position that you can't really have first-hand experience in.

I really don't see how you can assume that there are universal truths with regard to how people feel.

If your only concern with saying shit like that is that it will make you seem not classy then I don't really know what to say.

[jfrey]

Well, I don't know what you expect people to say when you try an speak from a position that you can't really have first-hand experience in.

I have never had to steal to eat. I still know it to be wrong regardless of my inexperience with the circumstance. A person's experience with such things doesn't necessarily give them sage wisdom on the subject. If anything, it often distorts their perspective. Detachment can sometimes (maybe even most of the time) give you a better vantage.

I really don't see how you can assume that there are universal truths with regard to how people feel.

Is self-esteem internal? Is confidence? I would think these ideas are not only universal but also obvious.

If your only concern with saying shit like that is that it will make you seem not classy then I don't really know what to say.

I was illustrating that while I would not personally take part in such things, I don't believe there is - without malice - anything that you can vilify in such things. Especially since - from my experience at least - it is something that gets thrown around on both sides of the table.

[smile_man]

I have never had to steal to eat. I still know it to be wrong regardless of my inexperience with the circumstance. A person's experience with such things doesn't necessarily give them sage wisdom on the subject. If anything, it often distorts their perspective. Detachment can sometimes (maybe even most of the time) give you a better vantage.

Yes, but you've never -had- to steal, such as you've never been the victim of systematic oppression, specifically in regards to the case I am talking about (I can't assume you've never known any form of oppression, but I think I can safely assume that you've never been subjected to the form of oppression that women experience through being referred to as pieces of meat.)

Is self-esteem internal? Is confidence? I would think these ideas are not only universal but also obvious.

Do you get to decide this for people? Self-esteem and confidence can come from one's one mind, but don't tell me for a second that everyone is a brick wall who just takes what everyone says and does not internalize even a little bit of it.

I was illustrating that while I would not personally take part in such things, I don't believe there is - without malice - anything that you can vilify in such things. Especially since - from my experience at least - it is something that gets thrown around on both sides of the table.

Forgive me if I'm assuming the wrong thing, but if you're saying that sexism exists for men in the same way as it does for women, it's just not true.

[phantasmagorovich]

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This makes me want to visit North Korea and check out the chicks. Even I think that's disgusting.

[smile_man]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSWN6Qj98Iw[/youtube]

This makes me want to visit North Korea and check out the chicks. Even I think that's disgusting.

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[jfrey]

Yes, but you've never -had- to steal

How does that change whether such an act would be moral or not?

I can't assume you've never known any form of oppression

I don't believe I have - my family was very poor for most of my life (they are actually doing very well now though), but I don't consider that a form of oppression, because it isn't as if someone was doing that to us. I probably wouldn't be aware of it if I was though so don't take my word on that. People in general don't give me negative feelings. My girlfriend can make me feel mildly upset or annoyed but that's about it. To be honest I think it hurts her that she can't make me feel more. It isn't intentional, but I have spent so many years - 17 give or take - thinking about how I think, and then thinking about what that means, and then thinking about how I arrived at that meaning, etc. for infinity, that I don't really think or feel things that I don't choose to think or feel. Possibly tangent.

Do you get to decide this for people? Self-esteem and confidence can come from one's one mind, but don't tell me for a second that everyone is a brick wall who just takes what everyone says and does not internalize even a little bit of it.

I'm not really deciding that for people. Nor am I saying that you don't internalize things that people say or do. I'm saying that peoples thoughts and feelings are their responsibility to manage. I'm not asking anyone to do anything I haven't done myself - albeit for different situations. Even then, I'm really not asking anything. But, it's something people should consider if they don't want baggage always holding them back from being the people they should be.

Forgive me if I'm assuming the wrong thing, but if you're saying that sexism exists for men in the same way as it does for women, it's just not true.

This is an overgeneralization. Sexism does exist for both, although it is not the same thing - and has historically in most cultures impacted women much more than men. This specific example however - about "objectifying" language - is present for both. As I mentioned earlier, I have seen it more so on the part of women than men. And, if that is not simply an exception, then it is hypocritical to be offended by it.

[futuresailors]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSWN6Qj98Iw[/youtube]

This makes me want to visit North Korea and check out the chicks. Even I think that's disgusting.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWkqBRuwjeY[/youtube]

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[smile_man]

How does that change whether such an act would be moral or not?

Okay, I feel like we've gone off on a tangent here. While I understand the analogy you are using, I don't think it applies to this case.

I don't believe I have - my family was very poor for most of my life (they are actually doing very well now though), but I don't consider that a form of oppression, because it isn't as if someone was doing that to us. I probably wouldn't be aware of it if I was though so don't take my word on that. People in general don't give me negative feelings. My girlfriend can make me feel mildly upset or annoyed but that's about it. To be honest I think it hurts her that she can't make me feel more. It isn't intentional, but I have spent so many years - 17 give or take - thinking about how I think, and then thinking about what that means, and then thinking about how I arrived at that meaning, etc. for infinity, that our thoughts and emotions just aren't really in the same place. Possibly tangent.

Maybe a tangent, but you've made valid points nonetheless. My opinion is that you can not say to someone "Don't feel (insert emotion/opinion/whatever) about (insert situation), because I wouldn't feel that way, and don't understand how you would." (I don't know if it sounds like I'm accusing you with that hypothetical statement, but that was not my intention)

I'm not really deciding that for people. Nor am I saying that you don't internalize things that people say or do. I'm saying that peoples thoughts and feelings are their responsibility to manage. I'm not asking anyone to do anything I haven't done myself - albeit for different situations. Even then, I'm really not asking anything. But, it's something people should consider if they don't want baggage always holding them back from being the people they should be.

I'm just saying that it can be hard for people to manage something that they are constantly bombarded with almost every day.

This is an overgeneralization. Sexism does exist for both, although it is not the same thing - and has historically in most cultures impacted women much more than men. This specific example however - about "objectifying" language - is present for both. As I mentioned earlier, I have seen it more so on the part of women than men. And, if that is not simply an exception, then it is hypocritical to be offended by it.

While I do not deny that objectification exists for all genders, I do think that it in no way impacts men in the same manner that it does women. While mean can be objectified it doesn't follow them around and affect them in every aspect of their public life. To say that women can be sexist towards men in the same way that men are towards women implies that women have the same type of power that mean do, which they really don't. (I'm not accusing you of anything, merely stating my belief)

[alexa.]

Nor am I saying that you don't internalize things that people say or do. I'm saying that peoples thoughts and feelings are their responsibility to manage. I'm not asking anyone to do anything I haven't done myself - albeit for different situations. Even then, I'm really not asking anything. But, it's something people should consider if they don't want baggage always holding them back from being the people they should be.

yes!

I'm just saying that it can be hard for people to manage something that they are constantly bombarded with almost every day.

When I found myself, nothing could throw me off. Things even got more-"normal" because people started to treat me differently. So there is truth in the saying that when you change yourself, you've changed the world.

Like a young athlete. He has things tough, but when he gains experience, he sees things from a different perspective, also allowing him to act differently, to improve his performance. And when he does improve, things that bugged him in his starting days are not really big deals, cuz he learned how to handle them and how to think and position himself for the given situation.