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Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 12:51 am
by conky
D.o.S. wrote:conky wrote:D.o.S. wrote:
You fucking weirdo. Volume 1. is also amaze-balls. Skip the Aesbestosdeth stuff if you don't like that. No one's saying you have to like Sleep, although they're one of my desert island bands for sure.
I like Asbestosdeth way more than I do Sleep. I've had the 7" for years and listen to it all the time. I know I don't have to like Sleep. I was being facetious when I said that crap about keeping my doom cred. I'm just trying to keep an open mind while going back to listen to some things that I have brushed off before to see if I may like it this time around but I'm still not feeling them though.
I'm going to ignore the rest of the sacrilege and point out that almost every one of the Asbes songs show up on Vol 1.
Buried at Sea are awesome. Khanate is a total mood thing for me.
Neither one of the songs on the Dejection 7" I have are on Volume One. I just googled their discography though and realize that there was another 7" before this that I didn't know about. I thought it was just the one. Gonna have to find it. Maybe hearing the early recordings of that will help me get into Sleep easier.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 2:56 am
by misterstomach
Conky, sleep's good for drinking beer and head banging. I like them, but it's just regurgitated sabbath a bit ahead of the curve of 10,000 bands regurgitating sabbath. And better than most of the others, but if you don't like it it's not like your missing something. I don't particularly care for the wanky solos myself, although he is a killer player and seems to try to keep it tasteful.
If you don't like dragonaut, I would go so far as to say you just don't like sleep. It's their signature song. And I think the tones on that album are better than on Jerusalem. (Shoot me, I know). All of that is fine. They're just a stoner band (albeit a really good one), it's not like you need to get really deep with them to figure out if it's for you. Some bands take a while to get, I've just never thought of sleep as being one of them.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 11:21 am
by D.o.S.
conky wrote:D.o.S. wrote:conky wrote:D.o.S. wrote:
You fucking weirdo. Volume 1. is also amaze-balls. Skip the Aesbestosdeth stuff if you don't like that. No one's saying you have to like Sleep, although they're one of my desert island bands for sure.
I like Asbestosdeth way more than I do Sleep. I've had the 7" for years and listen to it all the time. I know I don't have to like Sleep. I was being facetious when I said that crap about keeping my doom cred. I'm just trying to keep an open mind while going back to listen to some things that I have brushed off before to see if I may like it this time around but I'm still not feeling them though.
I'm going to ignore the rest of the sacrilege and point out that almost every one of the Asbes songs show up on Vol 1.
Buried at Sea are awesome. Khanate is a total mood thing for me.
Neither one of the songs on the Dejection 7" I have are on Volume One. I just googled their discography though and realize that there was another 7" before this that I didn't know about. I thought it was just the one. Gonna have to find it. Maybe hearing the early recordings of that will help me get into Sleep easier.
Ahem. Scourge is the last track on Volume 1.
Stomach's right though -- they're not really a band you need to put it work to really appreciate (although I guess you could argue that Dopesmoker/Jerusalem takes effort, but for me: you either get it or you don't).
I couldn't imagine trying to get into them now, though. Not after everyone and their mother decided to bite that steez.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 11:47 am
by AxAxSxS
well said.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 12:46 pm
by CaptainBoxman
Just finished writing the final piece for my teaching degree
Got almost perfect grades so far, let's hope this shit actually funds a sizable doom shed
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 1:17 pm
by dazedbyday
D.o.S. wrote:
Stomach's right though -- they're not really a band you need to put it work to really appreciate (although I guess you could argue that Dopesmoker/Jerusalem takes effort, but for me: you either get it or you don't).
I couldn't imagine trying to get into them now, though. Not after everyone and their mother decided to bite that steez.
If you don't dig them then don't worry about it. It isn't like there is a checklist you need to fufill. There are a lot of bands that I can appreciate for what they did and how they contributed to certain genres but I don't really care for. I never liked Metallica or Iron Maiden but I can see how they put something towards metal in general. Sleep is the same way. They were one of the big names in the stoner/doom world and have a hype around their name. Kyuss is similar with the halo around them.
CaptainBoxman wrote:Just finished writing the final piece for my teaching degree
Got almost perfect grades so far, let's hope this shit actually funds a sizable doom shed
Congrats dude. I want a doom shed.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 1:58 pm
by christianatl
Why is being in a band so hard? TELL MY WHY.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 2:03 pm
by t-rey
Chankgeez wrote:t-rey wrote: Dopespoker
Is this that Doom biker gang?
That's exactly right. It's one of their lesser known cuts, often overshadowed by Dopesmoker
misterstomach wrote:And I think the tones on that album are better than on Jerusalem. (Shoot me, I know).
Right there with you, buddy. Although I tend to listen to Dopesmoker more than Holy Mountain.
dazedbyday wrote:If you don't dig them then don't worry about it. It isn't like there is a checklist you need to fufill. There are a lot of bands that I can appreciate for what they did and how they contributed to certain genres but I don't really care for. I never liked Metallica or Iron Maiden but I can see how they put something towards metal in general. Sleep is the same way. They were one of the big names in the stoner/doom world and have a hype around their name. Kyuss is similar with the halo around them.
I've tried with Kyuss, and I just can't.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 2:32 pm
by D.o.S.
t-rey wrote:
I've tried with Kyuss, and I just can't.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 3:18 pm
by ryan summit
i dont like any music
while im starin at a computer screen
it all sounds like nerd
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 3:26 pm
by fallen
There are no "doom rules". You don't have to like Sleep just like you don't have to like Kyuss or whoever. Same goes for gear. It would be pretty boring if every band played through the same amp, kind of like '80s metal. JCM800s sound good but when every band has one it can be monotonous.
It's interesting about modelling amp presets and playing through someone else's tone. I kind of feel that way about some of the tube amps I own. They are voiced a certain way in the factory and the way a lot of amp EQs are designed you can layer a bit more mids on top or control the amount of sizzle but usually can't do that much to change the fundamental voicing (unless you have the skills to open it up and mod it).
Something digital with infinite adjustments can be fun to play with even though with anything that tweakable there is equal chance of making horrible tones as there is making good ones.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 4:58 pm
by ShaolinLambKiller
Thinking about that sounds like throwupbullshit. Also more likely more horrible tones... and speaking of that I noticed before I was turning something worthwhile U2 was playing on Jimmy Falon.. they were using all that shit you are talking about with digital shit. And that's always what I picture with the people using it.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 5:50 pm
by maggot
ryan summit wrote:i dont like any music
while im starin at a computer screen
it all sounds like nerd
Exactly! I get my delay and modulation from a Boss ME-70 multi fx unit, but I'm still not gonna program it. I just use it like a pile of stomp boxes.
I like Sleep, but I'm not quite sure that they're the greatest band ever. They're somewhat more huggable and charismatic than many of their peers, however.
My favorite thing about them is their capacity to spin their jams into a kinda orgiastic protoplasm of rock, especially live. Kinda like Cream if Cream weren't such total assholes. Sounds awesome, but it's not everyone's thing.
t-rey wrote:
I've tried with Kyuss, and I just can't.
I like Kyuss ok but the singing sounds poserish to me. I prefer QOTSA. Not quite sure what the Kyuss mania is about. Aside from the fact that if you saw them in the desert on two hits of acid it would probably make an impression. There are advantages to being a STONER rock band.
christianatl wrote:Why is being in a band so hard? TELL MY WHY.
Because music is bullshit. Sorry to rain on y'all's parade. Inside every musician is an Ike Turner trying to get out.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 7:01 pm
by fever606
christianatl wrote:Why is being in a band so hard? TELL MY WHY.
To weed out the weenies that don't have the heart and/or intestinal fortitude to take the physical and mental abuse that comes with bandmates, significant others, managers, booking agents, promoters, label schmucks and fans and turn it into something better...
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 10:08 pm
by grindonomicon
christianatl wrote:Why is being in a band so hard? TELL MY WHY.
Because if it were easy everyone would be all "success!" and would have tons of hookers and blow and money. And there just isn't enough to go around, so they make it difficult.
And, really, JUST being in a band is pretty easy. Being in an increasingly good, underfunded band with, like, goals and dreams and expectations and stuff is what's making all the stress for you.