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Re: Can we talk about modular synths?
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 8:47 am
by fhodshon
hiya,
so what Eurorack stuff can i plug into the CV of this pedal ?
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Re: Can we talk about modular synths?
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:22 am
by fhodshon
so, i'm REALLY rusty understanding CV.
i'll be using the HD as a guitar pedal (of course) - so as i sustain a note, i can control FREQ or DEPTH with an external Eurorack module?
like a waveform GENERATOR that would output a CV of that signal?
OR
a CV expression pedal?
if i am BARELY understanding this, the possibilities for guitar are endless.
i'm know this isn't new - just new to me.
thanks.
Re: Can we talk about modular synths?
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:26 am
by D.o.S.
On that pedal it looks like the CV controls the frequency of the oscillator.
Re: Can we talk about modular synths?
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:33 am
by fhodshon
D.o.S. wrote:On that pedal it looks like the CV controls the frequency of the oscillator.
great, thanks.
i couldn't find that info - but makes sense.
i'm liking that pedal - i've been looking at the Geiger Counter, but meh.
i just need to wrap my head around the modular synth thing as a way to modify my guitar signal.
if there is another pedal/module that affects an audio input (1/4") through waveshaping with CV, i'll take any and all suggestions.
i'm all in for going Eurorack too. doesn't have to be a pedal.
thanks for the info so far!!!
Re: Can we talk about modular synths?
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 10:10 am
by Strange Tales
What exactly are you trying to get out of Euro? If I understand correctly, you want to control the the pedal above using some form of CV?
Re: Can we talk about modular synths?
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 10:31 am
by behndy
mr. sound boy king wrote:behndy wrote:Muse FTW wrote:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU0ElYsdKAo[/youtube]
This sounds great but I would like to hear it at, like, 150 bpm.

ALWAYS WITH THE FAST SHUFFLINGS.
i'm right there with you homie. was listening in the car MEIN GOTT THAT MODULE SOUNDS GOOD and wanted to hear faster sections. vacation starts tomorrow night, but all the rushed noises when i get home.
Re: Can we talk about modular synths?
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 10:32 am
by mr. sound boy king
behndy wrote:
i'm right there with you homie. was listening in the car MEIN GOTT THAT MODULE SOUNDS GOOD and wanted to hear faster sections. vacation starts tomorrow night, but all the rushed noises when i get home.
Yah, man. I'll generally compose a patch at ~100 bpm and then crank it to 150, 180, 200, whatever because fast shufflings is my hometown.
Re: Can we talk about modular synths?
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 10:42 am
by fhodshon
Strange Tales wrote:What exactly are you trying to get out of Euro? If I understand correctly, you want to control the the pedal above using some form of CV?
Exactly.
So if there are Eurorack audio input waveformers that take cv (obviously) that could be an alternative to that pedal, great.
I sm all ears.
He makes a Eurorack of that pedal too.
So i guess as a CV source any eurorack generator with cv will do.
Yes?
Re: Can we talk about modular synths?
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 11:00 am
by fhodshon
Re: Can we talk about modular synths?
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 11:02 am
by behndy
mr. sound boy king wrote:behndy wrote:
i'm right there with you homie. was listening in the car MEIN GOTT THAT MODULE SOUNDS GOOD and wanted to hear faster sections. vacation starts tomorrow night, but all the rushed noises when i get home.
Yah, man. I'll generally compose a patch at ~100 bpm and then crank it to 150, 180, 200, whatever because fast shufflings is my hometown.
I LIKE YOUR HOMETOWN. SURE, THERE'S ONLY A WAFFLE HOUSE AND EVERYONE THERE IS ALL METHED OUT, BUT MANNNNN THEY DELIVER FOOD RIGHT AFTER YOU ORDER WOOOOOOOO.
Re: Can we talk about modular synths?
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 11:28 am
by Strange Tales
fhodshon wrote:Strange Tales wrote:What exactly are you trying to get out of Euro? If I understand correctly, you want to control the the pedal above using some form of CV?
Exactly.
So if there are Eurorack audio input waveformers that take cv (obviously) that could be an alternative to that pedal, great.
I sm all ears.
He makes a Eurorack of that pedal too.
So i guess as a CV source any eurorack generator with cv will do.
Yes?
So, if we're doing pedal (or any outside audio; guitar, synths, contact mic you fart on), you're going to need some sort of way to bring that level up to euro land, and back down to pedal land. My recommendation is:
http://busycircuits.com/alm006/ With that you will be able to send and return with everything else (so you can use modules to shape audio), but it also has a handy CV input that outputs 3V and 5V for pedal's expression input.
After that, it's your world to build for audio and CV shaping. The easiest recommendation for wacky and experimental shapes would be a Dual Envelope Generator, the most popular being the Make Noise Maths. It's a self patching monster that will give you all you could want and more.
If you're looking to replicate that pedal in euro (outside of his euro version), there are quite a few PLL modules. Doepfer A196 and Mutable Instruments Tides are the first two off the top of my head that can do PLL stuff.
Re: Can we talk about modular synths?
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 11:42 am
by Dark Barn
fhodshon wrote:so, i'm REALLY rusty understanding CV.
Think of CV as a value that can be generated arbitrarily, just like a parameter with a knob, CV input works the same way just without a knob. On most guitar pedals you can use a passive expression pedal to control the CV input, and is where I would recommend you get started. Maybe even ask the manufacturer what expression pedal they recommend, different exp. pedals will behave differently depending on the potentiometer value. There are some pedal based CV/expression sources that will give you LFO options too: Source Audio Reflex, Copilot FX Broadcast, Moog MP-201 (discontinued and expensive but still cheaper than getting into eurorack.)
Re: Can we talk about modular synths?
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 12:02 pm
by fhodshon
Strange Tales wrote:fhodshon wrote:Strange Tales wrote:What exactly are you trying to get out of Euro? If I understand correctly, you want to control the the pedal above using some form of CV?
Exactly.
So if there are Eurorack audio input waveformers that take cv (obviously) that could be an alternative to that pedal, great.
I sm all ears.
He makes a Eurorack of that pedal too.
So i guess as a CV source any eurorack generator with cv will do.
Yes?
So, if we're doing pedal (or any outside audio; guitar, synths, contact mic you fart on), you're going to need some sort of way to bring that level up to euro land, and back down to pedal land. My recommendation is:
http://busycircuits.com/alm006/ With that you will be able to send and return with everything else (so you can use modules to shape audio), but it also has a handy CV input that outputs 3V and 5V for pedal's expression input.
After that, it's your world to build for audio and CV shaping. The easiest recommendation for wacky and experimental shapes would be a Dual Envelope Generator, the most popular being the Make Noise Maths. It's a self patching monster that will give you all you could want and more.
If you're looking to replicate that pedal in euro (outside of his euro version), there are quite a few PLL modules. Doepfer A196 and Mutable Instruments Tides are the first two off the top of my head that can do PLL stuff.
holy cow!
that ALM006 looks like THE BRIDGE i was seeking.
still need to figure some of this stuff out, but that may be the key piece in all this.
THANKS!
Re: Can we talk about modular synths?
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 1:08 pm
by dozicusmaximus
Ordered a Just Friends to complete the Mannequins line up.
Will be getting rid of Tides. Thinking about losing Spectrum, SVVCF, and maybe the Plague Bearer. I'll need to spend another week or two with them before I really decide. The Spectrum is great and covers everything that the Mangrove doesn't. But I do have a Minibrute for the more standard kind of things.
Unless somebody is looking for those and has a Rings they are wanting to trade.
Speaking of Rings anyone have any favorite percussion style modules? Not drums. Or favorite techniques for coaxing bubbley, drippy, clicky, bongo things? I've been using the Plague Bearer and SVVCF which kind of gets me there. I just figure a Rings would get me there quicker without tying everything up. But if I'm to dumb to use Tides...

Re: Can we talk about modular synths?
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 1:19 pm
by mr. sound boy king
dozicusmaximus wrote:
Speaking of Rings anyone have any favorite percussion style modules? Not drums. Or favorite techniques for coaxing bubbley, drippy, clicky, bongo things? I've been using the Plague Bearer and SVVCF which kind of gets me there. I just figure a Rings would get me there quicker without tying everything up. But if I'm to dumb to use Tides...

I use a Make Noise Optomix for this. Can turn any osc into a wonderful vactrol clang. Works exceptionally well with my Equation Composer and Braids.