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Re: Hardcore

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 3:38 pm
by PeteeBee
lordgalvar wrote:Everybody I ever saw doing any thing remotely punk way back in the 90s used whatever loud amp they could find at the time and just pushed it (noise and all)...
This philosophy is how I ended up with the peavey to begin with. I still in my heart think it is true. I think my best bet (without spending a ton) is just slam it super hard with my dirge rangemaster. I need to do some experimenting. I want grind, feedback, old school tones.

I think part of the problem is we are still figuring out volume. Our singer and drummer don't like to practice real loud, but then I'm always left disappointed in the tones. when we go full on they are at least different... :idk:

Re: Hardcore

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 9:03 pm
by BoatRich
PeteeBee wrote:Guess I'm buying a new amp haha
I mean I have a musician in my rig, I just use it as the bass amp in my two amp set up and use the built in dirt. That para eq is really useful.

Re: Hardcore

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 9:26 pm
by lordgalvar
PeteeBee wrote: This philosophy is how I ended up with the peavey to begin with. I still in my heart think it is true. I think my best bet (without spending a ton) is just slam it super hard with my dirge rangemaster. I need to do some experimenting. I want grind, feedback, old school tones.

I think part of the problem is we are still figuring out volume. Our singer and drummer don't like to practice real loud, but then I'm always left disappointed in the tones. when we go full on they are at least different... :idk:

Bolded the issue...

I read a fleshies interview once...the guitar player was like "get the biggest amp possible, then learn to play well...the amp will smooth out the mistakes and make it fun" or something like that. Honestly, that is what a lot of this tone is...these days though, people are way more worried about tone and stuff... but they have a lot more available options too.

Crass used whatever amps (looked like selmer or something) and a beebaa (thanks sonidero). Black Flag guy used a solid state I think, but most bands I see use some kind of Marshall these days (who knows back then)...but that could be just because they are using somebodies back line.

Saw longknife and forward (using shared equipment) and I think they were running two marshall JCM 800s or something on guitar into two cabs...So yea, it is a rock tone haha
BoatRich wrote: That para eq is really useful.
That was what helped people fight mud (which was most of the tone talk I heard back in the day...it was muddy or it was loud and distorted (the good side)). Guitar more treble and high mids, bass more low and low mids...drums play loud...don't hear the singer until a show (they sang through somebody's old bedroom combo at practice). Treble booster (like you said) and maybe an eq pedal for more cut and practice at show volume...haha.

Part of the fun was just playing loud...drummer has to play loud though...

Also, try different amp positions if you can...we did that a lot...like amps further away and just be closer to the drums.

You'll be fine with the peavey man. Just go for it.