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Re: Computer based ambient drone: Tim Hecker, Ben Frost etc.

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:47 am
by Ev_O)))
Wassup my main people.

This is a short collection of pieces built mostly on mangled choirs and synthesisers that I created while composing for a different project. Kinda like offcuts I guess.

http://blasariusyonder.com/album/shade

.2nd track is based on heaps of loops of a 15 second guitar sample. Built like a mega version of the Ct5's mode 3 in Ableton just using fucktonnes of channels with the looper on them all mapped to a Midi controller (for that hands on spontaneity ay) and with the output from each loop channel being recorded onto a separate channel, so at the end I'm left with like 12 pitchy glitchy tracks to chop and and play with. Tracks 1 and three involved a similar process but are synth heavy.
Enjoy!

Re: Computer based ambient drone: Tim Hecker, Ben Frost etc.

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:48 pm
by xchristophex
Ev_O))) wrote:Wassup my main people.

This is a short collection of pieces built mostly on mangled choirs and synthesisers that I created while composing for a different project. Kinda like offcuts I guess.

http://blasariusyonder.com/album/shade

.2nd track is based on heaps of loops of a 15 second guitar sample. Built like a mega version of the Ct5's mode 3 in Ableton just using fucktonnes of channels with the looper on them all mapped to a Midi controller (for that hands on spontaneity ay) and with the output from each loop channel being recorded onto a separate channel, so at the end I'm left with like 12 pitchy glitchy tracks to chop and and play with. Tracks 1 and three involved a similar process but are synth heavy.
Enjoy!
Track 2 has a vibe that's reminiscent of 'Beyond The Black Rainbow'.

Re: Computer based ambient drone: Tim Hecker, Ben Frost etc.

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:26 pm
by Faldoe
Ev_O))) wrote:Wassup my main people.

This is a short collection of pieces built mostly on mangled choirs and synthesisers that I created while composing for a different project. Kinda like offcuts I guess.

http://blasariusyonder.com/album/shade

.2nd track is based on heaps of loops of a 15 second guitar sample. Built like a mega version of the Ct5's mode 3 in Ableton just using fucktonnes of channels with the looper on them all mapped to a Midi controller (for that hands on spontaneity ay) and with the output from each loop channel being recorded onto a separate channel, so at the end I'm left with like 12 pitchy glitchy tracks to chop and and play with. Tracks 1 and three involved a similar process but are synth heavy.
Enjoy!
This is pretty sweet.


I have a question for those that perform live with laptops and Ableton. With situations like this - in EV_O's case where he made a live set tailored to create this piece - how do you go from one piece to the next? Do you load a different live set that is tailored for the next song/piece? and keep doing that? Or do you just use one live set that you have loops/samples loaded in, as well as any instruments - VST - or external hardware stuff, and doing everything with that on Live set?

Re: Computer based ambient drone: Tim Hecker, Ben Frost etc.

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 8:31 pm
by Ev_O)))
Thanks fellas

Faldoe, when I play live my performance consists of two halves, about 10-15 minutes of looped and mangled drone synthesiser (rucci maximal drone) and about 12-15 minutes of sample based improvisation. During the second half I'll also gradually clear and reroute the loopers to loop my samples and not the input source (synth). I basically move from one part to another by simply fading channels within live in and out gradually. I launch my samples with a Novation launchpad, but the best $100 I ever spent was on an Akai Midi mix, which you can re-map witin live to act not only as a cheap USB mixer but also a MIDI controler for instruments, effects, loop speed/direction/pitch/volume whatever. My live session looks like this:

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The channels labelled Loop1 and 2 each contain a 4 channel multitrack looper plug in, while loop 1A has a single instance of Ableton's looper as it has a greater speed range (+/- 3 octaves I think) and every track can be sent through the same sends, some of which can get kinda gnarly:
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Which kinda allows me to share the same effects across new sections which is cool when trying to blend everything together, especially if you have something very prominent like that LFO-Limiter I have going on up there.

But yeah, efficiency is super important to me, and thats what I've tried to aim for here. One set, everything in it but with maximum control and flexibility. Hope that helps a little.

Re: Computer based ambient drone: Tim Hecker, Ben Frost etc.

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:56 am
by xchristophex
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https://vimeo.com/188385394
New audiovisual work in progress: More details to follow soon.

Re: Computer based ambient drone: Tim Hecker, Ben Frost etc.

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 4:36 pm
by _r_
Faldoe wrote: I have a question for those that perform live with laptops and Ableton. With situations like this - in EV_O's case where he made a live set tailored to create this piece - how do you go from one piece to the next? Do you load a different live set that is tailored for the next song/piece? and keep doing that? Or do you just use one live set that you have loops/samples loaded in, as well as any instruments - VST - or external hardware stuff, and doing everything with that on Live set?
Since I can't afford the full version of Live and don't really feel like I need it right now, should I ever perform my current electronic sonic ramblings live my plan is to leave my Volca Bass running while I load the next set... If you program it to play a 16-step sequence of the same note with slide turned on for every step it gives out a constant single tone rather than a 'bassline', twiddle a few knobs on top of it and it makes a pretty good drone machine!

Re: Computer based ambient drone: Tim Hecker, Ben Frost etc.

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:16 pm
by ognoy
Anyone have any experience with CSound?
I'm participating in a workshop this weekend to build this: http://cosmoproject.github.io/about/
Video(vimeo): https://vimeo.com/183101272

It's a pedal/hardware/synth/magic box for using CSound without a laptop(it has a Raspberry Pi inside).

Really excited!

Re: Computer based ambient drone: Tim Hecker, Ben Frost etc.

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:22 pm
by D.o.S.
I do not, but that's really, really cool.

Re: Computer based ambient drone: Tim Hecker, Ben Frost etc.

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:01 pm
by geisterfaust
I just made an account on this website to say thanks to everyone thar contributed in some way or another to this thread. I've been a big big fan of Tim's music and recently I got into Ben Frost's AURORA and I couldn't been happier when I found out all the information poured here. I've been lurking for a while, but as soon as I get a new PC and start messing around with Ableton, consider me an active member here.

Re: Computer based ambient drone: Tim Hecker, Ben Frost etc.

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 5:06 pm
by aholidayatthesea
ognoy wrote:Anyone have any experience with CSound?
I'm participating in a workshop this weekend to build this: http://cosmoproject.github.io/about/
Video(vimeo): https://vimeo.com/183101272

It's a pedal/hardware/synth/magic box for using CSound without a laptop(it has a Raspberry Pi inside).

Really excited!
Man that sounds awesome. There's a part of me that wants to get something like that so I can program crazy effects that don't exist in hardware, but then I think I'll just get stuck trying to program a simple delay.

Re: Computer based ambient drone: Tim Hecker, Ben Frost etc.

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 3:02 am
by ognoy
aholidayatthesea wrote: Man that sounds awesome. There's a part of me that wants to get something like that so I can program crazy effects that don't exist in hardware, but then I think I'll just get stuck trying to program a simple delay.
So I built this over the weekend:
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Was really fun and a lot of work. Did not have time to set up any software, but finished the box.
Will try to make some sounds come out of it after work today.
But I did try the one that was done and had a setup which included lowpass filter, distortion, square wave trem, a looper, revers, a beautiful reverb and some crazy delays. All at the same time!! Was awesome!

Now I just need to learn how to code in Csound.

Re: Computer based ambient drone: Tim Hecker, Ben Frost etc.

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 6:57 am
by spacelordmother
geisterfaust wrote:I just made an account on this website to say thanks to everyone thar contributed in some way or another to this thread. I've been a big big fan of Tim's music and recently I got into Ben Frost's AURORA and I couldn't been happier when I found out all the information poured here. I've been lurking for a while, but as soon as I get a new PC and start messing around with Ableton, consider me an active member here.
Welcome!

Re: Computer based ambient drone: Tim Hecker, Ben Frost etc.

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:23 am
by D.o.S.
Welcome again, and that's very cool, ogs. Would love clips (obviously).

I still haven't actually checked out Ben Frost beyond that Ableton set he released as a learning/experiment playground. Any record recommendations?

Re: Computer based ambient drone: Tim Hecker, Ben Frost etc.

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:35 am
by oscillateur
These for example, from Aurora (latest album) :

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AorbE6al7c[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Gig7e5lwOE[/youtube]

Re: Computer based ambient drone: Tim Hecker, Ben Frost etc.

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 6:55 pm
by Ev_O)))
I'm super partial to Secant myself

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bTB8ZT2pB4[/youtube]