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Re: Toobz vs SS - Bass Amps

Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 1:37 am
by Waterpilot
Mudfuzz wrote:Well then it must be true.. :p
IDK... I have never had all the issues outers have with tube amps being clean and clear.. they have like knobs and stuff..


haha I lurv the internets. Yeah I should prolly bow out of this one since have little expierence with tube heads. Trying to help but spreading the wrong information doesn't... :no:

Re: Toobz vs SS - Bass Amps

Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 1:47 am
by Mudfuzz
Waterpilot wrote:
Mudfuzz wrote:Well then it must be true.. :p
IDK... I have never had all the issues outers have with tube amps being clean and clear.. they have like knobs and stuff..


haha I lurv the internets. Yeah I should prolly bow out of this one since have little expierence with tube heads. Trying to help but spreading the wrong information doesn't... :no:

:idk: best thing to do is to play through a few :thumb:
Now SS amps I'd be lost other then I hate Edens and like SWR and Trace... I have only owned one all SS amp which was a pignose hog30... :lol:

Re: Toobz vs SS - Bass Amps

Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 5:24 am
by behndy
hurm. the Traynor i'm looking at has 1/4 inch outs. is it a huge thing to change those to speakons? i prefer thems for the not mixing up with guitar cables/locked in safety goodness.

murrrrrrr?

Re: Toobz vs SS - Bass Amps

Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 7:48 am
by coldbrightsunlight
I have no problem with my amps using 1/4 speaker outs, I just have a very different looking speaker cable so I know what's up.

Re: Toobz vs SS - Bass Amps

Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 9:23 am
by smallsnd/bigsnd
Mudfuzz wrote:the mid freq switch does a lot to change where the mids sit and I would not say it is a scooped sound at all.. honky if anything if you don't know how to set the eq.. like anything else..


+1. the mid mid-freq setting sounds like a stuck wah if you push the mids knob all the way up.

Re: Toobz vs SS - Bass Amps

Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 11:08 am
by D.o.S.
behndy wrote:hurm. the Traynor i'm looking at has 1/4 inch outs. is it a huge thing to change those to speakons? i prefer thems for the not mixing up with guitar cables/locked in safety goodness.

murrrrrrr?


Probably.

Re: Toobz vs SS - Bass Amps

Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 11:13 am
by behndy
yah. i'll probably just pick up some 1/4 to Speakon if i end up with this head.

Re: Toobz vs SS - Bass Amps

Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 12:02 pm
by warwick.hoy
behndy wrote:yah. i'll probably just pick up some 1/4 to Speakon if i end up with this head.


That's what I was going to suggest,...or an adapter.

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I don't see the wiring being a big deal,...but the chassis would have to modified to accommodate for the bigger jack.

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Re: Toobz vs SS - Bass Amps

Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 12:04 pm
by Moustache_Bash
What do Speakons do, and do they make a difference?

Re: Toobz vs SS - Bass Amps

Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 12:17 pm
by theavondon
Moustache_Bash wrote:What do Speakons do, and do they make a difference?


Yeah, are they basically the same, but they lock?

Re: Toobz vs SS - Bass Amps

Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 12:18 pm
by behndy
nothing more than a good speaker cable. they just lock in which makes me feel all giggly and comfy, and the different ends make sure you're not going to accidentally use an instrument cable instead of a speaker cable.

Re: Toobz vs SS - Bass Amps

Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 12:19 pm
by warwick.hoy
Solid connection. I have had 1/4 inch cables work their way out of cabinetry.

Speakons are always made from the appropriate gauge cable for speaker cable use, so it's not even possible to buy a POS speaker cable if you are sticking with Speakon.

Nuetrik makes solid connectors and as far as I can tell Neutrik is the only company that makes the Speakon cable, so again not easy to buy a shitty cable.

And there is no chance to mistake an instrument cable for a speaker cable (I've done that and ruined my night).

Re: Toobz vs SS - Bass Amps

Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 12:23 pm
by D.o.S.
speaker cables instead of instrument cables are basically a litmus test of your ability to not be a retard.

Of course, my speaker cables have green housing at each jack to prevent any mix ups--I have also been known to wear a helmet when showering.

Re: Toobz vs SS - Bass Amps

Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 12:29 pm
by behndy
oog. i need all the help i can GET during setup. i get a bit frazzled before the first note drops, that's where all my nervousness is. so laying out a pedalboard and wiring up my rig and helping whoever else in the band that needs it........ yah. anything that can be made simplah HELPS.

........ i might want to borrow your helmet sometime.

Re: Toobz vs SS - Bass Amps

Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 12:36 pm
by warwick.hoy
I think you get a pass if you do it once, If you do it more than once; here's your sign.

To further my defense; back then I didn't know there was difference between instrument and speaker cables (no one bothered to tell me and we didn't have the internets back back).

Yeah,...I have never really mixed it up since then. My current speaker cables are way shorter than any of my instrument cables,...the gauge is heavier and the screw on shaft portion of the plug (whatever that shit is called,....cover? IDK?) are a wider diameter that that of the instrument cables. Hard to fuck up.