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[SPACERITUAL]

If you own a 1995 Toyota Celica can you sell it for more than a Lexus because they don't make them anymore? fuck no.

That's because you're missing the "demand" part of the supply & demand equation. If it were a $SomeCarEveryBodyWants (sorry, I know buggerall about cars), then damn right you might be able to sell it for more than a Lexus.
How much was a Fuzz Face when it was new? A Tone Bender MkI? 1958 Les Paul?
Then how much was a Digitech death metal distortion? DOD American Metal? MIC Squier Stratpack?

I think some people are missing the entire point of the thread. Tom and ryan and devi and and others go out of their way to give away free pedals and pass along discounts and special products to the members of this board out of a love for the community and fuzz in general. Bearing that in mind, someone signing up for one of the giveaways, winning the pedal, then taking it to tgp (where they know they can make more) and selling it for way more than it would be selling at retail is FUCKING SLEAZY. Theres no way around it. So what if you didnt mesh well with the pedal, put it up on b/s/t for a trade or even sell it for a little less than retail (but for fucks sake check with ryan or tom first so you dont make them look like assholes for selling something they gave you for free). The same goes for exclusive ILF pedals. You really think ryan is unaware of the demand for his product right now? He could have offered that limited run through dealers for much more....but he wanted to do something nice for the community so he offered them here for reasonable prices. At least two people bought those to immediately put that shit on TGP for more than they paid for it. People like that have no respect for the ILF community in general and are openly taking advantage of our resident makers generosity. This can also be said about the blems. Ryan could have just as easily rescreened those pedals and offered them for retail sale.....but instead he passed the savings on to members of our community...now these are products that are NOT INTENDED FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC AS THEY ARE COSMETICALLY DEFECTIVE. So not only are people profiting off of them but no doubt this is going to reflect poorly when these pedals start to circulate and could potentially harm ryans business. But then people just dont give a fuck about that do they. Some people have suggested that im just mad that i didnt get in on the miniberator runs....uh up until the other night i had a jc120....no offense to ryan but i really at that point had no desire for a reverb as the built in on that amp is irreplaceable. HOWEVER, i was the recipient of a very special ILF frazz dazzler. I fucking love it. it makes me want a woofer wailer as well. Anyway since i won it ive recieved a ridic amounts of offers to buy it over AIM. People not even bothering to register for the fucking forum but offerin g me more than normal frazz dazzlers because its one of a kind and they know they can fucking flip it. Sleazy. If i ever decide im not meshing with this pedal or whatever....you can bet your ass its going right back up on the monthly giveaway to keep in in the community. It was a gift and as such i really dont have the right to make any money off of it. Thats just my opinion though.

[Nychthemeron]

Well, there's a difference between buying something because you want to keep it, and buying something just to flip it for profit. If you buy a rare pedal just to have it, that's okay in my book as long as it's seeing a little bit of usage, or at least makes you happy. If you just get it because you want to make some money down the road though, that's a little stiff. And if you buy something to sell it for twice the price in a week, then that's just low. The people that are forced to flip so they can pay the bills though, that just sucks.

There will always be annoying flippers, and at the same time there will be those who need to flip.

[pothole]

I hear what you're saying spaceR. It is fucked up since we're all kind of in this together..but at the same time it's kinda fun to get a little ahead. It's all give and take....give a little when you can and take a little when you can. no big deal. i totally get what you're saying though and I agree.