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basti moon wrote:even though everyones heard of emerson, lake and palmer, not many people I meet talk about them, strange huh?

Well, they and most of the Progressive movement took a nasty hit when some "stick up the butt" critic decided that bands that could actually play their instruments well (and better than most others) were to be considered "self indulgent" and "pompous". I could never understand this line of thinking. I think it was jealousy. It is sort of like in "The Fountainhead", when the architecture critic openly reviles anything that is nonconformist because it is dangerous to think for oneself.

It is one of the reasons why Punk was so embraced at first, because the players kept it simple, both the style and the textures (guitar, bass, drums). These critics (mostly New York/Village Voice critics, I suspect) saw Punk as a return to roots, a fresh breath of rock 'n roll air amidst the excess of the "Stadium Rock" bands. I find it interesting that as the Punk movement caught on in the US, many bands with interesting sounds crept in under the radar, like Black Flag, Sacharrine Trust, the Melvins, Sonic Youth, UK bands like Killing Joke, and what did they give us? A new form of rock, part punk, part metal, part progressive. Also, heavy metal had a resurgence and brought chops and tone back into the equation.

In the meantime, though, people forgot about guys like Emerson, Lake and Palmer and just how good they were. Not much guitar, after all.

preach it, Suilebhain.

Suilebhain wrote:TOP SIX AUTHORS (novelists, poets, etc.)

Gene Wolfe

TOP FIVE BOOKS (or literary works)

Book of the New Sun

What a brilliant, brilliant author. What a fucking epic. What. A. Fucking. Epic. His asides and flavor descriptions have detail that could become novels on their own.

One section of the core class "Philosophical Perspectives On The Humanities" at the U of Chicago (my alma mater) threw Book of the New Sun on their reading list. I was pleased. Personally, I think it's the sort of work that, like the Illiad or Ulysses, could stand for a whole course devoted to unpacking it and reading relevant philosophical and historical texts. One day that shit's going to be canonized proper, mark my words.

hatshirt wrote:preach it, Suilebhain.

+1

But what about King Crimson? Are they like mix between the two? Or were they just not popular at all during that time?
Or, a more popular theory, they were only popular in germany and japan, like all the other progs, baha!

hatshirt wrote:
i am in love with pj harvey and someday i'll marry her.

Well, I'm in love with Kaki King, I want to magically transform myself into her favourite blanket

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wsFeXWc82Y[/youtube]

How can you go wrong with a song called "Gay sons of Lesbian Mothers"?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMQ2yNYQ_Z0[/youtube]

oh yeah, i forgot to mention my favorite new band, even though they started in the late 70's. that great band is James Chance and the Contortions!! an equal mix of James Brown and The Birthday Party, this shit blew my fuckin mind!! Holy Fuck!!!

Stacco

I want to magically transform myself into her favourite blanket

Me too .. or soap bar ..

TOP 5 FAVORITE MUSICIANS/BANDS (of all time)
Brigitte Fontaine & Areski Belkacem (any work done together)
Flying Saucer Attack
Takehisa Kosugi
Henry Flynt
Leonard Cohen


TOP 5 FAVORITE MUSICIANS/BANDS (that you recently got turned on to)
Ghedalia Tazartez
David Crosby (If Only I Could Remember My Name)
Moolah
Free (first 2 albums)
John Cale (well...not just turned onto... but just blown away by the NY in the 60's box)

TOP 5 FAVORITE PIECES OF MUSIC GEAR (non-pedals)
Gretsch Super Axe
Yamaha VSS-30
Ebow
The Cello
The Viola


TOP 5 EFFECT PEDALS (name at least 2 non DE)
Deluxe Memory Man
Boss PS-3
ZVex SeekTrem
Pedalworx McFuzz
Electro Harmonix 2880


TOP 5 FILMS/FILMMAKERS
Tarkovsky
Bela Tarr
Alejandro Jodorowsky (mainly for Holy Mountain)
Godard (especially 80s)
Herzog (probably the strongest over genre and time ever...)


5 Political/Social/intellectual heroes.
Henry Flynt
Derek Bailey
Alice Coltrane
Nina Simone
Jandek


TOP 4 ARTISTS (painters, designers, comic, etc.)
Felix Ganzalez-Torres
Bas-Jan Ader
Rothko
George Segal



TOP THREE AUTHORS (novelists, poets, etc.)
Beckett
Hamsun
Mikhail Bulgakov


TOP 6 FAVORITE THINGS TO DO ON MY DAY OFF (and there is no one else around)
Go To The Coast
Make/Listen Music
Make Food
Read
Find Someone To Hang Out With
Sit Think About One Of The Above Five

I just stumbled upon this thread, thought I'd add my 2-cents...now that I've studied my favorite posters' inner workings and motivations...


TOP 5 FAVORITE MUSICIANS/BANDS (of all time)

boredoms
frank zappa
john dowland
henry purcell
laurie anderson

TOP 5 FAVORITE MUSICIANS/BANDS (that you recently got turned on to)

tiger lillies
joseph nothing
can
devi ever (I learned a bunch of her songs!)
big star

TOP 5 FAVORITE PIECES OF MUSIC GEAR (non-pedals)

3rd wave concert ukulele
Earnest Instruments Rosetta "Au Naturel" Electric Tenor Guitar
Roland SP 555
E-bow
Alesis SR-18

TOP 5 EFFECT PEDALS (name at least 2 non DE)

DE VFM
DE US
Boss SL-20 Slicer Twin
E-H POG
Volume knob

TOP 5 FILMS/FILMMAKERS

David Lynch
Tom Tykwer
Gus Van Sant
Charlie Chaplin
Lars Von Trier

TOP 5 ARTISTS (painters, designers, comic, etc.)

Andy Warhol
Andrew Goldsworthy
I.M. Pei
JMW Turner
Joseph Cornell
...and any of the Impressionists...the blurrier the better!

TOP FIVE AUTHORS (novelists, poets, etc.)

Don Delillo
William S. Burroughs
Voltaire
Phillip K. Dick
Franz Kafka

I like scientists too:

Ray Kurzweil
Charles Darwin
Robert Goddard
Rachel Carson
Laurie Garrett


thanks, that was fun!

TOP 5 FAVORITE MUSICIANS/BANDS (of all time)

Smashing Pumpkins
Nirvana
The Vines
The White Stripes [ The Raconteurs too ]
The Strokes (Maybe Violent Femmes, idk)

TOP 5 FAVORITE MUSICIANS/BANDS (that you recently got turned on to)

They Might Be Giants
The Clash (liked em for awhile but yeah)
The Black Rabbits
Streetlight Manifesto
Early Weezer

TOP 5 FAVORITE PIECES OF MUSIC GEAR (non-pedals)

Gibson SG Classic
MIM Jazzmaster
The capo
Plectrums
Sound holes

TOP 5 EFFECT PEDALS (name at least 2 non DE)

DE AE
DE Rocket
Memory Man w/ Hazarai
E-H Polychorus
MXR Blue Box

TOP 5 FILMS/FILMMAKERS

Little Miss sunshine
Juno
i have a bad memory.... um Better Off Dead
Bill and Teds excellent Adventure
Star Wars?

TOP 5 ARTISTS (painters, designers, comic, etc.)

Shuichi Shigeno
My friend Sara
Ansel Adams
Edvard Munch


TOP FIVE AUTHORS (novelists, poets, etc.)

Poe
Shuichi Shigeno [initial D]
Whoever wrote And Then There Were None......Agatha Christi!
Kurt Cobains journals were pretty entertaining.
I read random shit

i'll bite:

TOP 5 FAVORITE MUSICIANS/BANDS (of all time)
frank zappa
killing joke
bow wow wow
sex pistols/P.I.L.
the freestylers

TOP 5 OTHER MUSIC
bird
miles
jean pierre rampal
canon in D
the carter family


TOP 5 FAVORITE MUSICIANS/BANDS (that you sorta recently got turned on to)
caspar brotzman
sleater-kinney "the woods" ... not really resent but still lovin' it like it was ...
night wounds
clara rockmore
kosheen ... again not resent but still obsessive ...


TOP 5 FAVORITE PIECES OF MUSIC GEAR (non-pedals)
65 fender stratocaster
56 gibson les paul tv jr
55 es 295
77 gibson les paul custom (i'm the third owner..the others are mick ronson (who bought it new) and steve jones)
demeter tga-3 amplifier


TOP 5 EFFECT PEDALS (name at least 2 non DE)
E13 synth mangler
maestro bass brassmaster / melekko assmaster
death by audio octave clang
maestro echoplex
thomas organ wah


TOP 5 FILMS/FILMMAKERS
i don't have satellite (not since 96) and other than taking my little girl to see some kids movies like "Bee Movie" or "Horton", i don't go to the movie theater. (i've never seen star wars)
here's some documentaries i dig:

keep the river to your left
modulations
scratch
the winter of entrapment (pbs documentary on the donner party)

seinfeld, larry sanders, and vintage wrestling is always fun.


TOP 5 ARTISTS (painters, designers, comic, etc.)
gustov klimt
lawrence x tarpy
dali
picasso
the factory

TOP 5 FOODS
cherries
pasta
hot sauce
rice
farina

TOP 5 DRUGS
caffeine
maxalt xt (migraines)
sugar
ganja
music


elwd

Elwood:

I LOVED "Scratch" I think it should be REQUIRED VIEWING for al guitar players.

Eh... I had to reiterate several previous suggestions, but...

5 BANDS/MUSICIANS:
Skinny Puppy (cEVIN Key and Dwayne Goettel were amazing together, SRSLY!)
Napalm Death (Everything they did from their inception as an Anarcho-Punk band up to "Hamrony Corruption" is my faveeee!)
Rozz Williams
Crass
# 5 is too hard to decide on!!! Let's just say nearly everything in the "dream pop-shoegaze-80's alternative/indie-twee pop" realm!
Oh, shit... and THE SMITHS! (Let's throw them in with #5)
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5 RECENTlY DISCOVERED MUSICS:
Re-discovered HELLBASTARD (not really a new one, though.)
Masonna (Same as above.)
Xome (Same as above.)
Dark Angel ("Darkness Descends" is all I've heard.)
Kilslug (Semi-recent find.)
I just realized I'm severely lacking in newly-discovered music! Sheit...
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5 PIECES OF GEAR:
Roland Juno-6
MY COMPUTER!
My ghetto-licious $20 guitar
Tape recorders of all sorts
found sounds & mystery cassettes from the thrift store! (there's some hilarious shit out there!)
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5 PEDALS:
Wattson SuperFuzz
Boss ME-30 (It's dated, and sometimes pretty cheesy, but I've learned to really love it.)
Sirkut Electronics "Gnarler"
Boss DD-20
Danelectro Fish & Chips (Yes, it's just an EQ, but it gets used for everything... nothing fancy, but always useful.)
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5 DIRECTORS:
David Cronenberg (Naked Lunch, Videodrome, eXistenZ.)
David Lynch (Eraserhead, Blue Velvet, Dune... Only seen those 3...)
Harmony Korine (Kids, Gummo, Julien Donkey-Boy)
John Waters (Pink Flamingos, Pecker, bits I've seen from pre-PF films, etc.)
#5 goes to a lot of B-Movie Directors and Troma-type junk.
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5 (visual) ARTISTS:
Hans Bellmer (Thanks to a Naked City album cover and I Hate Music forumites for leading me to him!)
Salvador Dali
Suehiro Maruo (Shit, thanks again, Naked City album covers!)
Francisco de Goya (Espec. his drawings and Engravings)
Rembrandt van Rijn
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5 AUTHORS:
William Burroughs
Tolkien
Edgar Allan Poe (Cliche, I know...)
Various magazines.
Bios/auto-bios about music/people/"etc." that I'm interested in.
I honestly don't read an incredible amount!
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5 MOST FREQUENTED FORUMS:
Above Top Secret
I Hate Music
Harsh Noise/Noiseguide
Devi Ever
Intelligent Machinery

Here we go:

TOP 5 FAVORITE MUSICIANS/BANDS (of all time)
Sonic Youth + Thurston Moore
Jon Spencer Blues Explosion / Pussy Galore
Captain Beefheart
Sweatmaster
Ike Turner

TOP 5 FAVORITE PIECES OF MUSIC GEAR (non-pedals)
64 VOX AC30 Head
Jerry Jones JJ original single cutaway
Otari MX5050-8 -recorder
69 Fender Mustang
Orange PPC-212 cab

TOP 5 EFFECT PEDALS (name at least 2 non DE)
E13 Torn´s Peaker
EHX Micro POG
DE Karaoke Party
4ms Nocto Loco
EHX Deluxe Memory Man