ilovefuzz.com

But also, from the manual:
http://www.metasonix.com/KV100manualpages.pdf

Are you starting to understand now? TheKV100 is UNIQUE. It IS NOT like any other multi-effect system on the market. It is DEVIANT, and you cannot expect it to behave like familiar effects, or to be completely stable and repeatable. You want new sounds, right? Here they are!

Metasonix is Zetamkiii

There's some good info about tone on gilmourish.com

D.o.S. wrote:But also, from the manual:
http://www.metasonix.com/KV100manualpages.pdf

Are you starting to understand now? TheKV100 is UNIQUE. It IS NOT like any other multi-effect system on the market. It is DEVIANT, and you cannot expect it to behave like familiar effects, or to be completely stable and repeatable. You want new sounds, right? Here they are!

Metasonix is Zetamkiii

Ｙｏｕ　ｊｕｓｔ　ｄｏｎ＇ｔ　ｇｅｔ　ｉｔ　ｄｏ　ｙｏｕ？　Ｙｏｕ　ｃａｎ＇ｔ　ａｓｋ　ｓｏｍｅｏｎｅ　ｔｏ　ｂｕｉｌｄ　ｙｏｕ　ｔｈｉｓ．　Ｔｈｉｓ　ｉｓ　ａ　ｍａｎｓ　ｍａｓｔｅｒｐｉｅｃｅ．
Ｉｆ　ｙｏｕ　ｈａｄ　ｂｅｅｎ　ｐａｙｉｎｇ　ａｔｔｅｎｔｉｏｎ　ｙｏｕ　ｗｏｕｌｄ　ｈａｖｅ　ｎｏｔｉｃｅｄ　ａｎ　ｅｍｅｒｇｉｎｇ　ｎｅｗ　ｋｉｎｄ　ｏｆ　ｐｅｄａｌ．
Ｔｈｒｏｕｇｈ　ｔｈｅ　ｄｕｃｋ　ｔａｐｅ，　ｂｏｏｂｙ　ｔｒａｐｓ　ａｎｄ　ｃｈａｏｓ　ｙｏｕ　ｗｏｕｌｄ　ｈａｖｅ　ｇｌｉｍｐｓｅｄ　ｔｈｅ　ｔｒｕｅ　ｎａｔｕｒｅ　ｂｅｈｉｎｄ　Ｊｏｈｎ　Ｓｃｈｕｍａｎｎ＇ｓ　ｏｒｉｇｉｎａｌ　ｄｅｓｉｇｎ．
Ｔｈｉｓ　ｉｓ　ｔｈｅ　ｖｅｒｙ　ｐｅｄａｌ　ｔｈａｔ　ｃａｕｓｅｄ　ｈｉｍ　ｔｏ　ｇｉｖｅ　ｕｐ　ｂｕｉｌｄｉｎｇ　ａｆｔｅｒ　ｃｏｍｐｌｅｔｉｎｇ　ｏｎｌｙ　ａ　ｆｅｗ　ｕｎｉｔｓ．
Ｙｅａｒｓ　ａｇｏ，　Ｉ　ｒｅｍｅｍｂｅｒ　ｈｅａｒｉｎｇ　ａ　ｃｕｓｔｏｍｅｒ　ｓｅｎｔ　ｈｉｓ　Ｐｌｌ　ｂａｃｋ　ｆｏｒ　ｒｅｐａｉｒ　ａｎｄ　ａｆｔｅｒ　３　ｍｏｎｔｈｓ　ｏｆ　ｗａｉｔｉｎｇ　ｒｅｃｅｉｖｅｄ　ａｎ　ｕｎｕｓｕａｌ　ｅｍａｉｌ．
Ｉ　ａｍ　ｎｏｔ　ｌｙｉｎｇ　ｗｈｅｎ　Ｉ　ｔｅｌｌ　ｙｏｕ　ｔｈｉｓ．　Ｉｔ　ｗａｓ　ｒｅｖｅａｌｅｄ　ｔｈａｔ　Ｓｃｈｕｍａｎｎ，　ｗｈｏ　ｈａｄ　ｎｅｖｅｒ　ｋｅｐｔ　ａ　Ｐｌｌ　ｆｏｒ　ｈｉｍｓｅｌｆ，　ｈａｄ　ｏｖｅｒ　ｔｈｅ
ｙｅａｒｓ　ｆｏｒｇｏｔｔｅｎ　ｔｈｅ　ｄｅｓｉｇｎ　ａｎｄ　ｆｅｌｌ　ｉｎ　ｌｏｖｅ　ｗｉｔｈ　ｔｈｅ　ｃｕｓｔｏｍｅｒｓ　ｐｅｄａｌ，　ａｔｔｅｍｐｔｉｎｇ　ｔｏ　ｒｕｎ　ｏｆｆ　ｗｉｔｈ　ｉｔ．

Ｔｈｉｓ　ｉｓ　ｎｏｔ　ｔｈｅ　ｍａｒｋ　ｏｆ　ａ　ｒｅｇｕｌａｒ　ｂｕｉｌｄｅｒ．　Ｙｏｕ　ｓｅｅ，　Ｉ＇ｖｅ　ｅｎｃｏｕｎｔｅｒｅｄ　ｆｅｗ　ｐｅｄａｌｓ　ｌｉｋｅ　ｔｈｉｓ．
Ｅａｃｈ　ｐｅｄａｌ　ｉｓ　ａ　ｍｅｔｉｃｕｌｏｕｓ　ｌａｂｏｒ　ｏｆ　ｌｏｖｅ．　Ｉｔ＇ｓ　ｅｃｃｅｎｔｒｉｃ　ｇｅｎｉｕｓ　ｃａｎｎｏｔ　ｂｅ　ｈｅｌｄ　ｔｏ　ｔｈｅ　ｓａｍｅ　ｓｔａｎｄａｒｄ　ａｓ　ａ　ｒｅｇｕｌａｒ　ｂｏｕｔｉｑｕｅ．
Ｉｔ　ｉｓ　ｔｈｅ　ｐｉｎｎａｃｌｅ　ｏｆ　ｕｎｏｂｔａｉｎｉｕｍ．　Ａ　ｂｏｕｔｉｑｕｅ　ｂｏｕｔｉｑｕｅ　ｗｈｅｒｅ　ｔｈｅ　ｂｕｉｌｄｅｒ　ｈａｓ　ｐｏｕｒｅｄ　ｈｉｓ　ｖｅｒｙ　ｓｏｕｌ　ｉｎｔｏ　ｗｈａｔ　ｈｅ　ｉｓ　ｃｒｅａｔｉｎｇ　ｔｏ
ｔｈｅ　ｐｏｉｎｔ　ｉｔ　ｔｒａｎｓｃｅｎｄｓ　ｉｔｓｅｌｆ　ａｎｄ　ｂｅｃｏｍｅｓ　ａｒｔ．　Ｔｈｉｓ　ｉｓ　ｔｈｅ　ｓｈｉｔ　ｌｅｇｅｎｄｓ　ａｒｅ　ｍａｄｅ　ｏｆ．

Ｙｏｕ　ｄｏ　ｎｏｔ　ｕｎｄｅｒｓｔａｎｄ　ｗｈａｔ＇ｓ　ｈａｐｐｅｎｉｎｇ．　Ｔｏ　ｓｉｍｐｌｙ　ｈａｖｅ　ｓｏｍｅｏｎｅ　ｅｌｓｅ　ｂｕｉｌｄ　ｙｏｕ　ｏｎｅ　ｉｓ　ａｎ　ｉｎｓｕｌｔ　ｔｏ　ｔｈｉｓ　ｍａｎｓ　ａｒｔ．
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zetamkiii wrote:Be realistic. No one's going to build this for you. You're going to be waiting forever. As far as incentive, your money is worthless in the face of the tedious, time consuming complexity I can imagine this build being. Imagine you're the one who has to build and entire run of these pedals while constantly receiving email after email from lazy greedy bastards demanding progress and not getting overwhelmed and burned out. Patience has become waving your money around for over 2 years waiting for someone to build you a copy of an old unobtainable pedal huh? How about taking some initiative, studying the original and learning to read schematic and solder?

On second thought, never-mind. I'd rather stand around do nothing but waiting and waving my money around for another 2 years. You know eventually someone will come along and build a clone of this obscure pedal and it will be cheap with plenty to go around.

NARRATOR: ZETAMKIII WAS RIGHT

no joke though some of my most noise-y stuff comes from simply having really shite power supplies so dont underestimate using your environment

D.o.S. wrote:

zetamkiii wrote:Be realistic. No one's going to build this for you. You're going to be waiting forever. As far as incentive, your money is worthless in the face of the tedious, time consuming complexity I can imagine this build being. Imagine you're the one who has to build and entire run of these pedals while constantly receiving email after email from lazy greedy bastards demanding progress and not getting overwhelmed and burned out. Patience has become waving your money around for over 2 years waiting for someone to build you a copy of an old unobtainable pedal huh? How about taking some initiative, studying the original and learning to read schematic and solder?

On second thought, never-mind. I'd rather stand around do nothing but waiting and waving my money around for another 2 years. You know eventually someone will come along and build a clone of this obscure pedal and it will be cheap with plenty to go around.

NARRATOR: ZETAMKIII WAS RIGHT

Then Zetamkiii is Eric Barbour, the Metasonix inventor... and he is like a bald 50 years old man.

goroth wrote:There's some good info about tone on gilmourish.com

protip:backwards wah

thinkingchicken wrote:

D.o.S. wrote:

zetamkiii wrote:Be realistic. No one's going to build this for you. You're going to be waiting forever. As far as incentive, your money is worthless in the face of the tedious, time consuming complexity I can imagine this build being. Imagine you're the one who has to build and entire run of these pedals while constantly receiving email after email from lazy greedy bastards demanding progress and not getting overwhelmed and burned out. Patience has become waving your money around for over 2 years waiting for someone to build you a copy of an old unobtainable pedal huh? How about taking some initiative, studying the original and learning to read schematic and solder?

On second thought, never-mind. I'd rather stand around do nothing but waiting and waving my money around for another 2 years. You know eventually someone will come along and build a clone of this obscure pedal and it will be cheap with plenty to go around.

NARRATOR: ZETAMKIII WAS RIGHT

Then Zetamkiii is Eric Barbour, the Metasonix inventor... and he is like a bald 50 years old man.

A clever theory, thinkingchicken, but zetamkiii definitely didn't/doesn't know how a PLL works and Metasonicx dude definitely does/did.

D.o.S. wrote:

thinkingchicken wrote:

D.o.S. wrote:

zetamkiii wrote:Be realistic. No one's going to build this for you. You're going to be waiting forever. As far as incentive, your money is worthless in the face of the tedious, time consuming complexity I can imagine this build being. Imagine you're the one who has to build and entire run of these pedals while constantly receiving email after email from lazy greedy bastards demanding progress and not getting overwhelmed and burned out. Patience has become waving your money around for over 2 years waiting for someone to build you a copy of an old unobtainable pedal huh? How about taking some initiative, studying the original and learning to read schematic and solder?

On second thought, never-mind. I'd rather stand around do nothing but waiting and waving my money around for another 2 years. You know eventually someone will come along and build a clone of this obscure pedal and it will be cheap with plenty to go around.

NARRATOR: ZETAMKIII WAS RIGHT

Then Zetamkiii is Eric Barbour, the Metasonix inventor... and he is like a bald 50 years old man.

A clever theory, thinkingchicken, but zetamkiii definitely didn't/doesn't know how a PLL works and Metasonicx dude definitely does/did.

Metasonix dude is zetamk3 for synth stuff

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Like when he talks at 7:40 its exactly the same tone and demeanour as him. I am in on this theory

I mean he's also totally right about guitar players

of course he is, but that is super low hanging fruit. everyone knows guitarists are idiots

also, new theory: zetamkIII is a D.o.S alt

you wanna get black van'd?

'cause that's how you get black van'd.

goroth wrote:There's some good info about tone on gilmourish.com

lmfao

fcknoise wrote:yeah so run high gain distortions/fuzzes and add a filter pedal. it is a kwaaazy sound for sure but it is very achievable to do something like that. if you run a death metal and a fab tone (and as my car-passing-by-sound scandi friend mentioned, "quite noise-y" is a hell of an understatement) and add a filter pedal. That gated sound at 6:04 requires yet another fuzz probably, something like a fuzzhugger sun eater could do some of those sounds.

There are lots of filter pedals. I am not good at recommending filter pedals though. Check out the dwarfcraft happiness or ARF, maybe those will do something for you, I had them both but I am not much of a filter pedal guy as I said.

You might not even need a filter pedal as such if you have a crazy enough mixer. Some of them have various filters.

P.S.
What you dubbed a car-passing-by-sound is actually meant to be the guitar in "Only Shallow", you know, like:

Oh that’s good to know! That’s kinda the car passing by sound but repeated many times and on guitar. Kinda