Fuck Behringer

[dubkitty]

you basically can't even find camping tents any more that aren't made in China, and haven't been able to since the late 90s.

[aen]

Among a thousand other shady shits they have taken, Behringer is now trying to take the Oberheim brand name, which Gibson had once acquired and then recently gifted back to Tom Oberheim.

Just before that there was the fake pedal announcement/direct personal attack that featured a racist cartoon.

Then there's the whole decades long legacy of producing knock-offs.

So yeah, fuck behringer.

[dubkitty]

AEN! delightful to see you! how's life and the fam?? i was just thinking yesterday about how much i miss you and Louise.

[MaxMaps]

Among a thousand other shady shits they have taken, Behringer is now trying to take the Oberheim brand name, which Gibson had once acquired and then recently gifted back to Tom Oberheim.

Just before that there was the fake pedal announcement/direct personal attack that featured a racist cartoon.

Then there's the whole decades long legacy of producing knock-offs.

So yeah, fuck behringer.

the fuzz god has spoken

/thread

[dubkitty]

I don't care about the knock-offs because i've depended on knock-offs to acquire a fair amount of my gear and the idea of Moog not making money hand-over-fist doesn't break my heart, but the shady business practices are off-putting.

[aen]

AEN! delightful to see you! how's life and the fam?? i was just thinking yesterday about how much i miss you and Louise.

Pretty good, pretty wild. Louise is working at Bandcamp these days, I'm working on cartoons, and going to college (kind of. online. ugh.)
https://deadastronaut.bandcamp.com/album/dead-astronaut

[dubkitty]

that's great! moving forward is a good thing. we miss your pedals, though.

[eatyourguitar]

Among a thousand other shady shits they have taken, Behringer is now trying to take the Oberheim brand name, which Gibson had once acquired and then recently gifted back to Tom Oberheim.

Just before that there was the fake pedal announcement/direct personal attack that featured a racist cartoon.

Then there's the whole decades long legacy of producing knock-offs.

So yeah, fuck behringer.

I took a deep dive into this cork sniffer fake pedal. it was absolutely definitely a fake guitar pedal that does not exist outside the computer 3d render. it was absolutely definitely a targeted attack on a specific person who made some negative comments about behringer products or you could argue fair honest opinions of behringer. I don't think it would be right for a pedal manufacturer to threaten violence or dox a journalist since that interferes with journalism and the right to have an opinion. in this case behringer did not threaten violence or dox anyone. he made a joke about a journalist and he did not even reference the name of that journalist even though it was clear who it was referencing from people who know the history of this animosity. this is wrong in my opinion because it could be the start of an online harassment movement targeting a specific journalist. but I think the joke and targeted bullying perpetrated by behringer never cleanly crossed the line into being antisemitic. if it did, it did so very ambiguously. it retains plausible deniability either by design or because there was actually no antisemitism. the joke was about journalists becoming expert wine snobs who talk shit on every wine less than $500 a bottle. the deluded and jaded out of touch condescending elitists that dominate wine culture to push out poor people or people of controversial opinions about cheap good wines. that is a very good argument with regard to wines. I don't think all wine journalists are elitists but I think some are. it is good to have a sense of humor but I think so many people are looking for antisemitism and the joke was very hard to find without explanation so what you get as a result is pareidolia where the far left starts calling everyone a nazi. this is why people laugh at these people on the far left calling everyone a nazi. really? everyone is a nazi? like %99.9 of the population of earth is all nazi's? this is delusional thinking that waters down the potency of real social justice movements if they should ever become real again.

[retinal orbita]

but I think the joke and targeted bullying perpetrated by behringer never cleanly crossed the line into being antisemitic. if it did, it did so very ambiguously.

Oh whew okay. They didn’t outright say it. So it’s fine! Calm down everyone! It was only ambiguously antisemetic!! And we can stop calling 99.9% of the population Nazis (which we do - all the time!) because clearly everyone is just overreacting. Nothing going on in the world that we should be concerned about right now.

How’s this for “ambiguous”:

[kaeth]

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt, and assume your deep dive was not deep enough. There were two mockups, neither of which I feel like posting, but are easily searchable. One was a single-knob pedal with a nose and some flies on it - not antisemitic in any obvious sense. The second was a wider box synthesizer which had Peter Kirn turned into a happy merchant cartoon, with an even more exaggerated nose. The happy merchant is most definitely, unambiguously antisemitic.

[dubkitty]

eweww.

[retinal orbita]

The second was a wider box synthesizer which had Peter Kirn turned into a happy merchant cartoon, with an even more exaggerated nose. The happy merchant is most definitely, unambiguously antisemitic.

I was struggling with what to call that image. I know it from “what NSBM punishers use all the time as their secret nudge nudge wink wink symbol”.

[dubkitty]

fuck that Shylock shit.

[John Matrix]

The second was a wider box synthesizer which had Peter Kirn turned into a happy merchant cartoon, with an even more exaggerated nose. The happy merchant is most definitely, unambiguously antisemitic.

I was struggling with what to call that image. I know it from “what NSBM punishers use all the time as their secret nudge nudge wink wink symbol”.

Well to give him (eatyourguitar not the Behringer guy) the benefit of the doubt...if I hadn't spent a significant amount of time on the NWN board I might not have recognized that cartoon as an antisemitic character either. Most people don't have to share space with WulfKommand88 and probably haven't been exposed to this shit.

[dubkitty]

anybody with knowledge about the Nazis knows all the age-old tropes.