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coldbrightsunlight wrote:Is it a super fuzz? Idk but it's fantastic whatever it is

It might be loosely based on the circuit but I think I want something that's more 'traditional' as I've already got some oscillating fuzzes.

Yeah if you're just looking for a standard-ish superfuzz I don't think it's the one.

So I ‘watched’ an Idiotbox Dungeon Master shipping from my country last week after reading this thread, I wake up this morning and the seller has offered 20% off just because I had it in my watch list..... so I’m a Super Fuzz guy now?

Perfect. I would do the same in that circumstance.

coldbrightsunlight wrote:

Perfect. I would do the same in that circumstance.

Reverb knows how to temp my “buy button”. I’m fuckin’ so stoked on this. And 1/2 the price of an FZ-2!

Dungeon Master is a great sounding, if non-traditionally Superfuzz, fuzz!

As far as the FZ-2 goes...I.actually think it has Bee Baa pedrigree, instead of Superfuzz. The "real" superfuzz clones I tried, sounded closer to my vintage Ibanez Standard fuzz. The Wattson one comes to mind. It's a close as they come, both in terms of tones as in aesthetics. The FZ-2 is way more agressive than an FY-2, more buzz, in a good kinda way. More sustain, sounds more agressive and menacing. Powerful eq, a stupid loud boost mode,...Cuts through a mix like a battle axe through a fresh corpse.

With the insane prices for FZ-2's these days, it makes a ton of sense to go with the Behringer clone. Rehouse it if you want, and give it the grpahics of your choice

Or if it's a superfuzz you're after, there's plenty of good affordable options out there. Never tried 'em, but those clones by Fredric or Malekko,...Seems ligit, no?
Also, a brand I don't think anyone mensioned yet: Maxon. The Air and Ether are supposed to be high quality clones. Or if you don't mind breaking out the old soldering iron, you could save yourself a couple bucks and order a kit for a BYOC Leeds.

There's one mahfakker on my fuzz pedlol wish list that I can't for the life of me find for a non-insane price: Guyatone TZ-2

How well does the Dungeon Master handle non-powerchord chords? The byoc superfuzz clone I have muds up chords pretty bad with lots of clashing overtones and such.

It's pretty sludge-y.

frigid midget wrote:As far as the FZ-2 goes...I.actually think it has Bee Baa pedrigree, instead of Superfuzz. The "real" superfuzz clones I tried, sounded closer to my vintage Ibanez Standard fuzz.

Beebaa and Superfuzz are completely different circuits.

And if you look at the circuit schematics, the FZ2 is a Superfuzz, only with a active 2 band EQ after the normal SF part.
What make the sound difference are the clipping diodes: vintage SFs use germanium, while the FZ2 uses silucium, which is why FZ2 sounds more thick.

Those Maxon Fuzz Elements pedals look also very interesting! I never tried them out, but Ether and Fire were on my wishlist few times.

The Ether looks super cool. Love parametric EQs.

I'm a big fan of the Basic Audio Super Fuzz. The tone control, half gain switch, and octave switch really open up a bunch of fresh territory over the original Super Fuzz.

Chankgeez wrote:Dungeon Master is a great sounding, if non-traditionally Superfuzz, fuzz!

Yeah the Dungeon Master is rad!

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retinal orbita wrote:So I ‘watched’ an Idiotbox Dungeon Master shipping from my country last week after reading this thread, I wake up this morning and the seller has offered 20% off just because I had it in my watch list..... so I’m a Super Fuzz guy now?

It arrived in 24 hours! Damn man I’ll be in my basement grinding away!! My PayPal payment hasn’t even cleared yet!