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@GhostHip - other than in spite of tone, why and which fuzz do you then use if any?

obviously to get that unshifted sound

what about stacking them though? slight shift up into slight shift down to get more shift in your sound but without the shift to get that signature unshiftiness

Ghost Hip wrote:I have a pitch shifter at the beginning of my chain set full wet without any pitch shifting so my tone is never true and thus always a reminder that tone is a lie

I legit did this on my last board.

blah blah blah fuzz before buffers blah blah

There are legit differences in some buffers (not talking the digital stuff where it just shunts it to to a "nothing happening but converter" situation.

I noticed it with the 80s DOD pedals a lot (the FX25 and that ilk) compared to my Boss and weirdo vintage stuff of the time, and one of the reasons I avoided DOD for ages.

The only one I have (a venerable 18v 585 Performer thing that predates them) has a buffer that isn't great but is ...not death, but I have that in a loop now so no issue.

Any of the other DODs of old I'd just put straight in a loop if I had to have it, no questions asked.

frodog wrote:@GhostHip - other than in spite of tone, why and which fuzz do you then use if any?

I've only done it a couple of times for kicks, I'm mostly just being a smart ass. I remember one time I did it for a recording with a Boss PS-3 but at the end of the chain, it added (or subtracted?) a certain quality

qersty wrote:what about stacking them though? slight shift up into slight shift down to get more shift in your sound but without the shift to get that signature unshiftiness

I've only done this with a whole octave up then "unshifted" with another octave down. But slight bends.... I wanna try that.

I've dne the octave up into octave down thing too several times but I never remember what it sounds like slightly detuning back and forth is probably cool. i imagine it could be in the ballpark of that new wave chorus/slapback thing they did with the eventide 910 where they set it to no pitch shift but its so unstable and tracks so poorly you got this really interesting flangy tin can effect
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8KQC80w-80[/youtube]

Ghost Hip wrote:

frodog wrote:@GhostHip - other than in spite of tone, why and which fuzz do you then use if any?

I've only done it a couple of times for kicks, I'm mostly just being a smart ass. I remember one time I did it for a recording with a Boss PS-3 but at the end of the chain, it added (or subtracted?) a certain quality

qersty wrote:what about stacking them though? slight shift up into slight shift down to get more shift in your sound but without the shift to get that signature unshiftiness

I've only done this with a whole octave up then "unshifted" with another octave down. But slight bends.... I wanna try that.

When I've ran dual octaves like you're talking about, it usually ended up in a muddied mess unfortunately. There are a few pedals that do both well. I want to say the Tensor is one...I can't actually remember....anyway. I found that if I put one in a loop and one outside of it, it can sound pleasant instead of appalling. LOL! Unless that's what you want, then go all for it. I like ugly sounds too! hahaha.


I stuck my EQD Organizer (obviously not a traditional octave up) at the beginning of the chain and turned the octaves down and used it almost like a boost. LOL. I don't know why. I already have enough boost pedals.