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Re: ISO signal-destroying pedals

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 3:38 pm
by goroth
I'll send a smoke signal to Norway, don't you worry.

Re: ISO signal-destroying pedals

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:00 am
by Phosphene Audio
The ultimate signal destroying pedal, in terms of the output being completely different than the input could be either a mute switch or a pedal that mutes the input and then randomly selects a radio station to play through the output. There could be some logic to it where the radio station changes randomly. Maybe there could be a rate knob to decide how frequently the station changes.


Of course, neither of these is useful other than as a smartass academic exercise, BUT, if one were to have a randomly changing selection of radio stations feeding the carrier of a ring mod, that might be amusing.

Re: ISO signal-destroying pedals

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2024 10:39 am
by alexsga
agreed, Adam of Copilot makes the Anchorman, which is the exact thing youre describing Phosphene, but he seems to have disappeared of the face of the earth - hasnt responded to my last few emails over the past 9 months. Then again, his mother passed, so maybe hes going through changes. Lets keep her in our prayers :group:

Re: ISO signal-destroying pedals

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2024 10:41 am
by alexsga
goroth wrote:I'll send a smoke signal to Norway, don't you worry.
word! :success:

Re: ISO signal-destroying pedals

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2024 7:47 pm
by K2000
Going back to echo some page 1 suggestions... the Mid Fi Glitch Computer can add adjustable amounts of instability and chaos to its bass heavy dirt formula, via the tracking knob. It's rad, IMO. I don't use it on guitar, I use it on synths and samples.

The Death By Audio Absolute Destruction is meh as a regular guitar dirt pedal (IMO) - the range of usable sounds is pretty limited, and not unique. A lot of the settings result in no output, or it makes your guitar sound like crap. HOWEVER what makes it interesting IMO is how different filter settings on the input signal changes what the Absolute Destruction outputs. Soooo, if you are sending something with a filter sweep into this unit, instability can ensue. I haven't tried this, but a filter affected by CV control or midi could also possibly also sound cool AF. I don't use this on guitar, I use it on synths (or samples of synths) that I've filtered. Then I go from the AbDestruction into a rad sounding dirt after that. AD doesn't provide enough dirt on its own, but creates instability on a filtered source.

Re: ISO signal-destroying pedals

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2024 4:01 am
by PanicProne
Phosphene Audio wrote:The ultimate signal destroying pedal, in terms of the output being completely different that the input could be either a mute switch or a pedal that mutes the input and then randomly selects a radio station to play through the output. There could be some logic to it where the radio station changes randomly. Maybe there could be a rate knob to decide how frequently the station changes.


Of course, neither of these is useful other than as a smartass academic exercise, BUT, if one were to have a randomly changing selection of radio stations feeding the carrier of a ring mod, that might be amusing.
Farifield Roger That kinda does this, I feel. I went to try one a few works back and just felt it was too much white noise and too uncontrollable. That's very much my subjective feel though. But yeah, could perhaps fit what you're looking for.

Re: ISO signal-destroying pedals

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2024 6:17 am
by Phosphene Audio
alexsga wrote:agreed, Adam of Copilot makes the Anchorman, which is the exact thing youre describing Phosphene, but he seems to have disappeared of the face of the earth - hasnt responded to my last few emails over the past 9 months. Then again, his mother passed, so maybe hes going through changes. Lets keep her in our prayers :group:


Wild, had never heard of that one. I jut looked it up.

Re: ISO signal-destroying pedals

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2024 12:34 pm
by alexsga
PanicProne wrote:Farifield Roger That kinda does this, I feel. I went to try one a few works back and just felt it was too much white noise and too uncontrollable. That's very much my subjective feel though. But yeah, could perhaps fit what you're looking for.
I dig the Roger That, but the size and price is a turnoff for me
K2000 wrote:The Death By Audio Absolute Destruction is meh as a regular guitar dirt pedal (IMO) - the range of usable sounds is pretty limited, and not unique. A lot of the settings result in no output, or it makes your guitar sound like crap. HOWEVER what makes it interesting IMO is how different filter settings on the input signal changes what the Absolute Destruction outputs. Soooo, if you are sending something with a filter sweep into this unit, instability can ensue.
interesting....and end-of-chain variable feedback source sounds up my alley. Running a bunch of different pedlols before it might be able to make it squeal like the Thornoscillator and Noise Swash that I was initially after then?

Re: ISO signal-destroying pedals

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 1:08 pm
by crochambeau
alexsga wrote:I dig the Roger That, but the size and price is a turnoff for me
I'm curious about this statement, is the less than 5 inch by 4 inch enclosure too large or too small?

Re: ISO signal-destroying pedals

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 1:52 pm
by alexsga
crochambeau wrote:
I'm curious about this statement, is the less than 5 inch by 4 inch enclosure too large or too small?
too large! remaining real estateis limited, so Noiswasp, Absolute Destruction and Thornoscillator will fit the bill. But which one to go for.... :?:

Re: ISO signal-destroying pedals

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 2:57 pm
by alexsga
im only working with like 3.5", my guy














thats what she said :surprise:

Re: ISO signal-destroying pedals

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 3:19 pm
by crochambeau
Hahaha, fair enough (I know the feeling). :cool:

I was curious as I am dabbling with some stuff that would take Montgomery Scott levels of engineering to wedge into a shell that small.

Re: ISO signal-destroying pedals

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 4:14 pm
by alexsga
ooo! is this Scott device signal-destroying perhaps?

Re: ISO signal-destroying pedals

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 5:37 pm
by crochambeau
alexsga wrote:ooo! is this Scott device signal-destroying perhaps?
Less destruction and more like dissection/reassembly, but I'm still in development and have horrific turn around times - so, for the present feel comfort that it wouldn't meet your criteria in the first place. We'll cross that bridge when we get to it.

Re: ISO signal-destroying pedals

Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 8:18 pm
by K2000
alexsga wrote:
PanicProne wrote:Farifield Roger That kinda does this, I feel. I went to try one a few works back and just felt it was too much white noise and too uncontrollable. That's very much my subjective feel though. But yeah, could perhaps fit what you're looking for.
I dig the Roger That, but the size and price is a turnoff for me
K2000 wrote:The Death By Audio Absolute Destruction is meh as a regular guitar dirt pedal (IMO) - the range of usable sounds is pretty limited, and not unique. A lot of the settings result in no output, or it makes your guitar sound like crap. HOWEVER what makes it interesting IMO is how different filter settings on the input signal changes what the Absolute Destruction outputs. Soooo, if you are sending something with a filter sweep into this unit, instability can ensue.
interesting....and end-of-chain variable feedback source sounds up my alley. Running a bunch of different pedlols before it might be able to make it squeal like the Thornoscillator and Noise Swash that I was initially after then?
I don’t understand your comment about end of chain feedback source. I’m suggesting that the AbsDestruction and Glitch Computer will make your signal unstable (sounds like bad tracking, similar to the Buzz Box). I have never heard the Noise Swash (!) or Thornoscillator so I can’t comment on what other devices sound like they do. IMO when you are trying to capture the sounds of a certain device, you’re usually best off actually getting that specific device, because there’s enough variability in circuits that nothing else will duplicate “that sound”. If you’re trying to find something out of production then you have to make do with what’s available. But I see Thornosccilators and Noise Swatches are still available- just keep your eyes open for a good deal. Time (searching for a deal) or money, you usually have to spend one or the other.