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Re: Gibson files Chapter 11
Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 11:23 am
by worra
D.o.S. wrote:What is Fender Play?
LMGTFY
https://www.fender.com/play
Re: Gibson files Chapter 11
Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 11:29 am
by Disarm D'arcy
aen wrote:rfurtkamp wrote:
(which is the same error Fender is going down, hiring the Disney store/Nike guy to run the show, and thus we get garbage like Fender Play and "maple everything")
Well, I have to disagree here.
Fender Play keeps people interested in their new gear. Learning to play REALLY helps. And fender is focusing on catching and keeping NEW customers, in addition to serving the established base while Gibson is trying to wring more money out of the old-school customers. If you want to keep selling guitars in a world that is NO LONGER FOCUSED ON GUITAR as the primary means of music creation, you gotta meet people where they are.
Online. At school. At home. While being female. Half of fender's new sales last year were to women. They are marketing to young women and girls just as much as they are the boys, and offering lessons to everyone. So I see that it doesn't really apply to you, someone who already knows how to play and what they like, but you don't need to be marketed to with nearly the same focus, intensity, or regularity.
And last but not least, Maple forever, rosewood is farts.
Pretty spot on yes
Re: Gibson files Chapter 11
Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 11:34 am
by rfurtkamp
I did alpha and beta testing for it.
It's junk compared to, well...just about anything.
Rocksmith and its ilk are adaptive learning tools that aren't just play along with Youtube.
And well, Fender's been losing me for a while - both on pricing and on choices they're making.
I'm all for offering variants of things without standard features, but....when the much-vaunted new stuff doesn't come with rhythm circuits, strangle switches, et cetera...there's a reason I've been buying Gibson the last few years I suspect.
Re: Gibson files Chapter 11
Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 11:42 am
by Kacey Y
aen wrote:Maple forever, rosewood is farts.
All great points, but I have to shine a light on timeless wisdom when I see it.
Re: Gibson files Chapter 11
Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 12:56 pm
by friendship
y'all are crazy for wanting a finished fretboard
give me that wood raw daddy
Re: Gibson files Chapter 11
Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 1:05 pm
by Muff_Diver
friendship wrote:y'all are crazy for wanting a finished fretboard
give me that wood raw daddy
Love the finished board on a Rick. Love everything about a Rick tbh.
Re: Gibson files Chapter 11
Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 1:17 pm
by friendship
yeah right prove it
Re: Gibson files Chapter 11
Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 1:33 pm
by aen
I mean, I really wish Fender would go back to finishing the BACKS of the necks, too. and don't give me that "it's a satin finish bro" bullshit. That's some IKEA project nonsense.
Re: Gibson files Chapter 11
Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 1:34 pm
by worra
aen wrote:I mean, I really wish Fender would go back to finishing the BACKS of the necks, too. and don't give me that "it's a satin finish bro" bullshit. That's some IKEA project nonsense.
My newest Fender has the "satin" finish and I quite like it tbh
Re: Gibson files Chapter 11
Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 1:39 pm
by aen
worra wrote:aen wrote:I mean, I really wish Fender would go back to finishing the BACKS of the necks, too. and don't give me that "it's a satin finish bro" bullshit. That's some IKEA project nonsense.
My newest Fender has the "satin" finish and I quite like it tbh
U LIKE IKEA PROJECT NONSENS
Re: Gibson files Chapter 11
Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 1:46 pm
by calfzilla
aen wrote:I mean, I really wish Fender would go back to finishing the BACKS of the necks, too. and don't give me that "it's a satin finish bro" bullshit. That's some IKEA project nonsense.
The back of the neck on my Fender is sanded off and I think it's wonderful
Re: Gibson files Chapter 11
Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 1:54 pm
by aen
calfzilla wrote:aen wrote:I mean, I really wish Fender would go back to finishing the BACKS of the necks, too. and don't give me that "it's a satin finish bro" bullshit. That's some IKEA project nonsense.
The back of the neck on my Fender is sanded off and I think it's wonderful
This is one of those rare cases where an opinion can be wrong.
Re: Gibson files Chapter 11
Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 2:05 pm
by calfzilla
Agreed... but perspective is everything
Re: Gibson files Chapter 11
Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 2:44 pm
by jrfox92
aen wrote:rfurtkamp wrote:"maple everything")
And last but not least, Maple forever, rosewood is farts.
I'd like to note that it's likely for legal and financial purposes that they started doing that.
I imagine that after what was done to Gibson, Fender started making large strides to avoid having that shit happen to them, too.
rfurtkamp wrote:
I'm all for offering variants of things without standard features, but....when the much-vaunted new stuff doesn't come with rhythm circuits, strangle switches, et cetera...there's a reason I've been buying Gibson the last few years I suspect.
Strangle/rhythm circuits are often yanked out, though. Fender's just giving the people what they want (less bullshit+lower prices).
It's like saying that Gibson's downfall was facilitated by the fact that they don't have varitone switches in every guitar of theirs.
Re: Gibson files Chapter 11
Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 3:24 pm
by Muff_Diver
friendship wrote:yeah right prove it
Come over, bb.