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Re: Hey there, it's Andy with...Reverb.com?
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 12:48 pm
by Psyre
Shalabama wrote:Psyre wrote:Shalabama wrote:So a retailer goes out of business. Big fuckin whoop. Pretty obvious that the musical gear world is in the toilet right now and of course retailers will feel the hit sooner than most. Why the hell are we supposed to treat this like some relative died or something? Eff tone report, eff PGS, eff all these people.
Silly post, that I agree with except for "musical gear world in the toilet" bit.
There has never been more great AND affordable gear. There are multiple options for every gear desire. Synth systems that only universities and major label studios could consider having, have now entered the homes of our poor ass's.
The issue I have with the "musical gear world" is the video world. Can't say I've watched a PGS video within the past 3+years. Can't thing of a pedal demo person who's made me want to buy a pedal. And don't even get me started on the trade show videos. We've entered a time where boutique builders are making attempts at stardom and many are now trying to fit in innapropriate "rig rundown" type videos. Reverb's trade show videos are the worst. Reverb's Syntax Error trade show vid was probably the most uncomfortable video I've seen since seeing some of that Elmo documentary that made me swear that dude was a pedo, only to find out 6 months later I was right.
Despite rejecting the claim that the equipment world is in the toilet, I would strongly support the claim that the equipment industry's Web presence has already been flushed.
Cool post that made me realize I needed to clarify my "toilet" comment. What I meant by that is that no one is buying shit nowadays. Everyone talks smack about how they gotta have this or that, but given how many used pedals are sitting unsold for months at a time, I can;t imagine how bad it is in the retail world, especially for boutique builders. Purely economics. You are right that there has never been a time with cooler gear. I just don't know who's buying it with the frequency to keep these guys in business.
Thanks for clarifying, I completely agree. There's definitely a demand, but supply is increasingly surpassing. The whole industry relies on the tiniest incremental improvement to nullify every predecessor. Without sounding like the ego is strong with me, it's a dangerous mindset that I really need to remove myself from, as well as so much of the toxic forum talk around gear. Don't want to derail the thread though, but I love this topic.
gringostar wrote:Between PGS and Prymaxe the wrong site closed down.
I was so close to saying this, but I honestly didn't know if Prymaxe was still open or not
Re: Hey there, it's Andy with...Reverb.com?
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 12:50 pm
by Chankgeez
Death to Prymaxe!
Re: Hey there, it's Andy with...Reverb.com?
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 1:02 pm
by gringostar
On the bright side, I had been eyeing the black cat bee buzz recently and they accepted a just over 20% off bid.
Re: Hey there, it's Andy with...Reverb.com?
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 1:06 pm
by echorec
gringostar wrote:Between PGS and Prymaxe the wrong site closed down.
If PGS & Prymaxe were Tupac & Biggie, what was Musictoyz--LL Cool J?
Re: Hey there, it's Andy with...Reverb.com?
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 1:49 pm
by gringostar
echorec wrote:gringostar wrote:Between PGS and Prymaxe the wrong site closed down.
If PGS & Prymaxe were Tupac & Biggie, what was Musictoyz--LL Cool J?
Yes
Which would make B&H Mike D
Drawing a blank for Sweetwater.
Re: Hey there, it's Andy with...Reverb.com?
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:00 pm
by Jwar
Shalabama wrote:So a retailer goes out of business. Big fuckin whoop. Pretty obvious that the musical gear world is in the toilet right now and of course retailers will feel the hit sooner than most. Why the hell are we supposed to treat this like some relative died or something? Eff tone report, eff PGS, eff all these people.
You only have three posts on this site. I don’t think your opinion is one we (meaning) I care about much. Thanks for sharing though! Hope you never have a business go under!
Re: Hey there, it's Andy with...Reverb.com?
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:02 pm
by 01010111
I just tried to go to ProGuitarShop’s physical location. Apparently they’re only open from 9-5, M-F...
Re: Hey there, it's Andy with...Reverb.com?
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:03 pm
by Shalabama
I don't see how anybody can dis Prymaxe. No other retailer has ever been so cool with me giving discounts to stuff usually "excluded" from sales as well as fast free shipping and amazingly quick responses to emails. I love Prymaxe and use them first when I am buying new. In fact, I just got a morley power fuzz wah from them at discount (Morley is usually excluded from sales) and they sent me the upgraded chrome version which is $80 more than the regular one. So I got a $225 pedal for $130 shipped free. I got a green russian EH the day they came out from Prymaxe again with a 20 percent discount and free shipping. Prymaxe rules!
Re: Hey there, it's Andy with...Reverb.com?
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:04 pm
by Shalabama
Jesus Was a Robot wrote:Shalabama wrote:So a retailer goes out of business. Big fuckin whoop. Pretty obvious that the musical gear world is in the toilet right now and of course retailers will feel the hit sooner than most. Why the hell are we supposed to treat this like some relative died or something? Eff tone report, eff PGS, eff all these people.
You only have three posts on this site. I don’t think your opinion is one we (meaning) I care about much. Thanks for sharing though! Hope you never have a business go under!
Sounds great man. Now I'm up to five, but thanks for letting me know how little you care about my opinion. It really doesn't mean a lot to me.
Re: Hey there, it's Andy with...Reverb.com?
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:05 pm
by Chankgeez
Shalabama wrote:I don't see how anybody can dis Prymaxe. No other retailer has ever been so cool with me giving discounts to stuff usually "excluded" from sales as well as fast free shipping and amazingly quick responses to emails. I love Prymaxe and use them first when I am buying new. In fact, I just got a morley power fuzz wah from them at discount (Morley is usually excluded from sales) and they sent me the upgraded chrome version which is $80 more than the regular one. So I got a $225 pedal for $130 shipped free. I got a green russian EH the day they came out from Prymaxe again with a 20 percent discount and free shipping. Prymaxe rules!
Re: Hey there, it's Andy with...Reverb.com?
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:15 pm
by 01010111
Shalabama wrote:I don't see how anybody can dis Prymaxe. No other retailer has ever been so cool with me giving discounts to stuff usually "excluded" from sales as well as fast free shipping and amazingly quick responses to emails. I love Prymaxe and use them first when I am buying new. In fact, I just got a morley power fuzz wah from them at discount (Morley is usually excluded from sales) and they sent me the upgraded chrome version which is $80 more than the regular one. So I got a $225 pedal for $130 shipped free. I got a green russian EH the day they came out from Prymaxe again with a 20 percent discount and free shipping. Prymaxe rules!
So.... you come to a forum owned and maintained by small builders, with a community that’s almost violently dedicated to those builders, and you wonder why we don’t like a shop that’s consistently bad for small builders?
Re: Hey there, it's Andy with...Reverb.com?
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:17 pm
by D.o.S.
See, unlike the dude who doesn't understand digital pedals, this is clearly Witt.
Re: Hey there, it's Andy with...Reverb.com?
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:26 pm
by echorec
gringostar wrote:echorec wrote:gringostar wrote:Between PGS and Prymaxe the wrong site closed down.
If PGS & Prymaxe were Tupac & Biggie, what was Musictoyz--LL Cool J?
Yes
Which would make B&H Mike D
Drawing a blank for Sweetwater.
Sugar Hill Gang
Re: Hey there, it's Andy with...Reverb.com?
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:30 pm
by Shalabama
01010111 wrote:Shalabama wrote:I don't see how anybody can dis Prymaxe. No other retailer has ever been so cool with me giving discounts to stuff usually "excluded" from sales as well as fast free shipping and amazingly quick responses to emails. I love Prymaxe and use them first when I am buying new. In fact, I just got a morley power fuzz wah from them at discount (Morley is usually excluded from sales) and they sent me the upgraded chrome version which is $80 more than the regular one. So I got a $225 pedal for $130 shipped free. I got a green russian EH the day they came out from Prymaxe again with a 20 percent discount and free shipping. Prymaxe rules!
So.... you come to a forum owned and maintained by small builders, with a community that’s almost violently dedicated to those builders, and you wonder why we don’t like a shop that’s consistently bad for small builders?
You're ascribing to me an intent I simply didn't or don't have. I know nothing about the origin of this forum or the violent dedications of said members. I thought it was another spot to talk about gear. Anyhow, I'd love to hear exactly why Prymaxe is bad for small builders. Seriously, I'm ignorant of the issue and am genuinely interested. All I know is as a buyer I love deals, good friendly staff and fast free shipping.
Re: Hey there, it's Andy with...Reverb.com?
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:36 pm
by goroth
Chankgeez wrote:goroth wrote:Guitar pedal sales are up 16%.
Have you been colluding with echorec?
Have you been talking to Paul Manafort again?