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Re: $300

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:10 pm
by hazelwould
less_cunning wrote:
Derelict78 wrote:
less_cunning wrote: maybe a Gristleizer. :stitch:

I am still waiting for the kits to be released FUCK I cant wait!



hmmm. i thought they were out. isn't a guitar place in Tennesse putting them out or something. there are rumourz of another pedal maker making one also but i don't like that dude though. he is on my "i don't like that dude" shitlist.

What builder would that be? :erm:

Re: $300

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:53 am
by less_cunning
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get a bit mangler !!! :joy:

Re: $300

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 10:55 am
by veteransdaypoppy
hmmmmm... :idk:
:wow what a fantastic idea you have there:

get 1/3rd of a frantone !!!

Re: $300

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 10:58 am
by Blurillaz
veteransdaypoppy wrote:hmmmmm... :idk:
:wow what a fantastic idea you have there:

get 1/3rd of a frantone !!!

Are Frantone's really that expensive? There are some used cream puffs around here for $199.00...

Re: $300

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:05 am
by my bloody television
Blurillaz wrote:
veteransdaypoppy wrote:hmmmmm... :idk:
:wow what a fantastic idea you have there:

get 1/3rd of a frantone !!!

Are Frantone's really that expensive? There are some used ones around here for $199.00...


http://frantone.com/creampuff-plus.html
scroll down for prices

Re: $300

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:10 am
by Blurillaz
my bloody television wrote:
Blurillaz wrote:
veteransdaypoppy wrote:hmmmmm... :idk:
:wow what a fantastic idea you have there:

get 1/3rd of a frantone !!!

Are Frantone's really that expensive? There are some used ones around here for $199.00...


http://frantone.com/creampuff-plus.html
scroll down for prices

Holy Blafoogles!
Well, doesn't she make everything? Even the pcbs n such?

Re: $300

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:20 am
by bubstance
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Re: $300

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:30 pm
by less_cunning
a girl's gotta make a living though, right? i do not begrude her that. plus there are like a ton of boutique dudes that are gonna still buy them at that price anyway. :)

Re: $300

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:37 pm
by Blurillaz
less_cunning wrote:a girl's gotta make a living though, right? i do not begrude her that. plus there are like a ton of boutique dudes that are gonna still buy them at that price anyway. :)

But pete cornish pedals?
Ugh...
Rehoused DD-2 for $900.00. :picard:

Re: $300

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:11 pm
by bubstance
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Re: $300

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:04 pm
by less_cunning
w/ me you are definitely preaching to the choir. so i wont rehash:

all i can say is that not everyone has the know how, the time, et cetera, to build pedals. i just read Forrest Mims "Getting Started in Electronics," & while i know a little bit more about electronic components & some of the logic therein, i still cannot read a schematic or understand circuits. sure i'll have to read more, start w/ basic stuff and practice but at this point it is convenient just to buy the damn pedal. especially if i can find it used or reasonably price.

:stitch:

Re: $300

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:14 pm
by 1,2,3, Pull Out!
Couldn't have said it better myself Bubstance. :thumb:

Re: $300

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:29 pm
by hazelwould
bubstance wrote:Rant ahead...

less_cunning wrote:a girl's gotta make a living though, right? i do not begrude her that. plus there are like a ton of boutique dudes that are gonna still buy them at that price anyway. :)


I don't know, I'm a firm believer in the whole theory of "a cheap pedal will sell more than an equivalent expensive one". Case in point, the Boss DS-1. Yeah, we can always find something that'll outdo it, but you have to admit, it's one of those pedals that most beginners buy, and it's cheap. So, if I can make a great product and sell it for cheap, wouldn't more people buy it than if it was 3-6 times that much? Think about it, if I make a fuzz pedal that absolutely kicks ass, and I sell a dozen a year at $300, that's not much income, right? Why not just make the pedal cost only a little more than parts cost, and sell a dozen a month?

At least that's how I see it. That's probably why I don't like the so-called "boutique" world, even though I am a member here. Quite honestly, I don't view the products here as "boutique" in any way. I dislike builders like Frantone, Zvex and the like, because their prices are only meant to fool you into thinking you're buying something innovative. Hardly any of the effects we buy as a community are truly "innovative", most are just rehashings of old designs, but modified to suit a different need. So what in that makes it worth a $275 price tag? By putting the price up that high, the so-called "audiophiles" think they're getting the best pedal on the planet, when in reality normal human beings cannot tell a difference between WIMA and Sprague. It's all a hype, and they know it too, which is why they can get away with it. They can sell something like a "crackle okay" knob as a gimmick and make a shitload of money because people just eat it up. People will eat it up because of the name attached to it, instead of actually looking at the quality of the build. The quality shouldn't reflect the price. I mean, look at Dirty Boy pedals. The only thing that makes them remotely "special" is that they're built by Alex Saraceno. The parts are average, the build quality is relatively normal, and the customer service is standard. So why can he charge +$400 for a fuzz? Because people are stupid, that's why.

So I'll stick to my decently priced gear, build shit myself, and laugh at anyone who will drop $300 on a fuzz when all it takes is a little know-how and a few hours to have something of the EXACT same quality for 1/10 of the price.

Blargh.

*edit* I know someone will point this out, but I do, in fact, own a Gibson Les Paul. The only reason was because I got a Studio for $300 from Craigslist. A steal, so I jumped, seeing how I got one from the period when their quality control was at its peak (early '90s).


True. The thing is too... The lower the price, the better the chance the companies have at actually selling a pedal. The used market on pedals is HUGE. Everytime someone buys used they're not only filling aslot on a companies "potential customer" list, but they're losing business. If the prices are low, people won't wait patiently for one to pop up used at 1/2 off. Look at the Memory Boy. I bet they sell a TON! Not that they won't pop up used, but I'd rather spend the extra $20 and get a new one.

It's funny, the pedal industry is like a scaled down version of the record industry. People started going nuts for used stuff, then the Internet allowed for free downloads. Now the "industry" is just weak. Same with pedals, people charge too much, as a result people buy used. Or they make them themselves. In no way does the industry profit. EH is going about it the right way. They constantly reinvent themselves. And shock with CRAZY prices.

Re: $300

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:43 pm
by bubstance
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Re: $300

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 10:22 pm
by DeadFlagBlues
I'd get:

Another delay (Akai Headrush)
Octave (POG, hell, you could probably get a used HOG (sans footswitch maybe? :idk:) for $300)
Reverb (EHX Cathedral?)