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Re: Which looper live?

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:54 am
by Seance
Seance wrote:
karmablock wrote:
Fixed


Edit: Finally hit 500 posts after 7 years.
See. There's your problem. If instead of going back into a previous post to edit it and
add info you just made another post you would have hit 500 posts after 3 1/2 years.
:excellent:
When talking about looping pedals... turn your own posts into loops.
Quote yourself. Ready your QWERTY keyboard and make sure to use
"tab tempo" so you get proper spacing.

Re: Which looper live?

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 3:05 am
by fcknoise
Should I suggest a timebender? To just let you all know I'm still me?

Nah actually, don't know if it's great for live, but it does however have a built in harmonizer that you can change with an expression pedlol. So. Only 20 secs tho

Re: Which looper live?

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 11:04 am
by sergiomunoz74
Subscribing to this because I want a full featured looper too but I always shy away feom the boomerang due to the price. I had a ton of issues with the infinity looper. Broken switch, problems with powering it, firmware issues causing lock ups. I didnt like it at all.

Re: Which looper live?

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 12:10 pm
by Faldoe
What about a used original Boomerang? It's. Little big but has all the functions you need right there.

Thread is making me want an E2 again

Re: Which looper live?

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 12:30 pm
by D.o.S.
Kbit is selling an E2 right now in the classifieds for a really good price. I almost snagged it from him but bills got in the way.

Re: Which looper live?

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 12:38 pm
by karmablock
Seance wrote:
Seance wrote:
karmablock wrote:
Fixed


Edit: Finally hit 500 posts after 7 years.
See. There's your problem. If instead of going back into a previous post to edit it and
add info you just made another post you would have hit 500 posts after 3 1/2 years.
:excellent:
When talking about looping pedals... turn your own posts into loops.
Quote yourself. Ready your QWERTY keyboard and make sure to use
"tab tempo" so you get proper spacing.
:lol:

Re: Which looper live?

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 12:41 pm
by karmablock
Faldoe wrote:What about a used original Boomerang? It's. Little big but has all the functions you need right there.

Thread is making me want an E2 again
Earlier Boomerangs are getting ridiculously expensive. I've seen them up to $275 might as well wait and save for a rang III.

Re: Which looper live?

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 1:22 pm
by oscillofuzz
Here's another loop-related question: how do y'all even use loops in a live band setting without turning all of the signal coming out of your amp into inaudible mush or screeching? Or do all ILF live loopers have stereo rigs?

Re: Which looper live?

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 1:37 pm
by cherler
oscillofuzz wrote:Here's another loop-related question: how do y'all even use loops in a live band setting without turning all of the signal coming out of your amp into inaudible mush or screeching? Or do all ILF live loopers have stereo rigs?
I have the exact same issue. I was thinking maybe a JC120 would fix it, but now that the Iconoclast is a thing I might just go stereo with that :idk:

Re: Which looper live?

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 1:57 pm
by oscillofuzz
cherler wrote:
oscillofuzz wrote:Here's another loop-related question: how do y'all even use loops in a live band setting without turning all of the signal coming out of your amp into inaudible mush or screeching? Or do all ILF live loopers have stereo rigs?
I have the exact same issue. I was thinking maybe a JC120 would fix it, but now that the Iconoclast is a thing I might just go stereo with that :idk:
Personally I'm more.drawn in the direction of a.Verellen Kalaloch or a 2nd Marshall with toobs and a dual 2x12 set-up, although that would require a substantially larger investment than the Neunaber :lol:

Re: Which looper live?

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:02 pm
by sergiomunoz74
oscillofuzz wrote:Here's another loop-related question: how do y'all even use loops in a live band setting without turning all of the signal coming out of your amp into inaudible mush or screeching? Or do all ILF live loopers have stereo rigs?
is that common? Maybe because when I loop I change up the volume of my guitar so things sit where I want them. I like stereo rigs though if I do a lot of different layers or distorted layers. I tend to loop clean mathy tap riff so its not much of an issue with me though over all.

Re: Which looper live?

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:24 pm
by karmablock
Use your volume knob or pedal so the loops are at different levels. The rang III has volume controls for each loop which is real nice.

Re: Which looper live?

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:49 pm
by cherler
oscillofuzz wrote: Personally I'm more.drawn in the direction of a.Verellen Kalaloch or a 2nd Marshall with toobs and a dual 2x12 set-up, although that would require a substantially larger investment than the Neunaber :lol:
Exactly :lol:

Although to be fair part of my problem is I have a particularly bad amp for this kind of thing, a Blues Deluxe Reissue I've had since I first started playing. Even with mostly clean playing, if I'm looping at levels high enough to get over drums it starts turning into a wash. It's fine If I mess with loop volumes at lower overall volumes, but turn up at all and it just doesn't have the headroom. The new amp investment may be worth it... :lol:

Re: Which looper live?

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:59 pm
by Bartimaeus
oscillofuzz wrote:Here's another loop-related question: how do y'all even use loops in a live band setting without turning all of the signal coming out of your amp into inaudible mush or screeching? Or do all ILF live loopers have stereo rigs?
Plan ahead, and adjust the tone of each overdub so that they don't conflict. Use your neck pup with the tone turned down for one loop, then your bridge pup for the overdub. Play very quietly with a bunch of delay to get an ambient loop, then play louder with less effects for a more prominent part.

Also, economize your overdubs. How things going on do you really need? Layering on a single melody or chord progression is often good, but a ton of different melodies turn into mush fast.

Multiple amps can make this MUCH easier, of course.

Re: Which looper live?

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 7:07 pm
by Seedy
Volume knob, yes. But also a volume pedal, after all your fx (or at least your main dirt and/if compressors) and before the looper. Again, why I like the M9 because you have both in there.