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I know that feel, they got in touch with me this past monday saying they just sent out the missing toggles and correct value resistors. I figure it would only take 2-3 days at most, but they still havn't been delivered... Meng QI let me know 5.1K are the correct value, if they sent you the wrong value maybe you can source some local cheaper?

Have you been running VM sequences into the glitch inputs? I'm pretty sure those are the Bounds inputs, and you get the ol "paradox" wave from the RED outputs when the lower Bound's voltage is higher than the upper Bound voltage

That is so cool, thanks for the video!

B.O.B wrote:I know that feel, they got in touch with me this past monday saying they just sent out the missing toggles and correct value resistors. I figure it would only take 2-3 days at most, but they still havn't been delivered... Meng QI let me know 5.1K are the correct value, if they sent you the wrong value maybe you can source some local cheaper?

Have you been running VM sequences into the glitch inputs? I'm pretty sure those are the Bounds inputs, and you get the ol "paradox" wave from the RED outputs when the lower Bound's voltage is higher than the upper Bound voltage

Eugh. I just want it now! Ha.
Yep, but the glitch ins/outs don't seem to do too much with the vm, I think they need Voltage's that are constantly in flux rather than sudden static changes. Either that or the voltage isn't strong enough patching the vm to glitches and fm/reds simultaneously works great.
Might have to make myself a format jumbler for those red outputs.

Antlerface wrote:That is so cool, thanks for the video!

chrisdermo wrote: Eugh. I just want it now! Ha.
Yep, but the glitch ins/outs don't seem to do too much with the vm, I think they need Voltage's that are constantly in flux rather than sudden static changes. Either that or the voltage isn't strong enough patching the vm to glitches and fm/reds simultaneously works great.
Might have to make myself a format jumbler for those red outputs.

Don't forget the BLUE as output too, they are like a lagged version of the RED. Patch the RED and BLUE to your mixer and monitor them both while making adjustment to the slider

Yeah that makes sense with the positive offset the Tetrax has too...instead of centered around zero with a +/- 5V signal, the Tetrax signal hovers around 4.5V so its more like 0-9V....the VM is probably putting out 0-5V so probably more dramatic results into the main pitch/chaos? I love using the Pressure Points tuned voltages into the Bound inputs on the IFM Fourses, I can just dial any of the Fourses 4 oscillators right into paradox territory...sounds so great plus makes for an awesome modulation source.

B.O.B wrote:

Antlerface wrote:That is so cool, thanks for the video!

chrisdermo wrote: Eugh. I just want it now! Ha.
Yep, but the glitch ins/outs don't seem to do too much with the vm, I think they need Voltage's that are constantly in flux rather than sudden static changes. Either that or the voltage isn't strong enough patching the vm to glitches and fm/reds simultaneously works great.
Might have to make myself a format jumbler for those red outputs.

Don't forget the BLUE as output too, they are like a lagged version of the RED. Patch the RED and BLUE to your mixer and monitor them both while making adjustment to the slider

Yeah that makes sense with the positive offset the Tetrax has too...instead of centered around zero with a +/- 5V signal, the Tetrax signal hovers around 4.5V so its more like 0-9V....the VM is probably putting out 0-5V so probably more dramatic results into the main pitch/chaos? I love using the Pressure Points tuned voltages into the Bound inputs on the IFM Fourses, I can just dial any of the Fourses 4 oscillators right into paradox territory...sounds so great plus makes for an awesome modulation source.

Nice I'll give that a try. I thought blues were just inputs..... but now seem to remember with your reminder they also work the other way round.

chrisdermo wrote: Nice I'll give that a try. I thought blues were just inputs..... but now seem to remember with your reminder they also work the other way round.

oh man, now i've been dying to try putting static voltages into the Tetra GREEN to see how that goes. with the IFM Fources all four oscillators Bounds are between -8 V on the bottom oscillator's lower Bound, up to +8V on the top oscillator upper Bound. Then the two middle oscillators Bounds are being set by whatever the oscillator directly above/below are doing..so all four are bouncing of off and influenced by whatever anything else is doing. BUT, if you insert voltages into the Bottom/Upper Bounds for an oscillator you basically remove it from influence of the other oscillators...so in this way you can turn Fources into Four independent VCO/LFO. I'm pretty sure the Sidrax/Tetrax aren't oriented the same way though, with the Chaos knob having some effect on opening a vca controlling how the four oscillators are intermodulating one another...although I don't really understand that relationship, have found patching a lower GREEN from one oscillator into the upper GREEN on another oscillator 2 over gets into interesting chaos sounds.

Oh yeah, I found there are bipolar CV signals on the plumbutter, so i've been feeling its safe to experiment with most signals from the modular into the CL, definitely patching IFM CV into CL was problem free.....think the only rule is NEVER patch the BROWN rollz into the modular, just use their ORANGE rollz output. Peter never got back to me but I read where he suggested it was fine to patch between formats with his instruments, just watch out for "fishy" voltages...

weyo, here's a listen to thee Lorre-Mill Double Knot, all patched up in some kinda way. Mostly symmetrical ways.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZADvv14zECc[/youtube]

I really like the touch sensitive bars on the old sidrassi oragans..not the metal plates but the little stand ins for the banana plugs..more lorre!

B.O.B wrote:weyo, here's a listen to thee Lorre-Mill Double Knot, all patched up in some kinda way. Mostly symmetrical ways.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZADvv14zECc[/youtube]

That was criminally short. More!

comesect2.0 wrote:I really like the touch sensitive bars on the old sidrassi oragans..not the metal plates but the little stand ins for the banana plugs..more lorre!

yeah, those bars with the touch nodes right on them there was a sidrazzi on ebay not too long ago, it had the touch nodes on the back style but with those scrolling pitch buttons. Wish I had spare monies at the time or I would have snagged it....darn root canals and caps that reminds me, I think it was an early version of the cocoquantus where the press/release of a couple barres were sample/hold function. god I love ciat

the Double Knot is gonna be way more fun than I expected, gonna be busy experimenting with the Ciat instruments to see how everyone gets along. tonight it's been Tetrax clocking and crossmodulating with the Double Knot

Oh hey chrisdermo, you can clock the Double Knot with the RED, BLUE or ORANGE outputs of Tetrax!!! Use a jumbler to convert from nanan to 3.5mm. Then you can use the Double Knot's REG and INV clock outputs for each sequencer!
No clips but this has kept me up all night.

B.O.B wrote:

comesect2.0 wrote:I really like the touch sensitive bars on the old sidrassi oragans..not the metal plates but the little stand ins for the banana plugs..more lorre!

yeah, those bars with the touch nodes right on them there was a sidrazzi on ebay not too long ago, it had the touch nodes on the back style but with those scrolling pitch buttons. Wish I had spare monies at the time or I would have snagged it....darn root canals and caps that reminds me, I think it was an early version of the cocoquantus where the press/release of a couple barres were sample/hold function. god I love ciat

the Double Knot is gonna be way more fun than I expected, gonna be busy experimenting with the Ciat instruments to see how everyone gets along. tonight it's been Tetrax clocking and crossmodulating with the Double Knot

Oh hey chrisdermo, you can clock the Double Knot with the RED, BLUE or ORANGE outputs of Tetrax!!! Use a jumbler to convert from nanan to 3.5mm. Then you can use the Double Knot's REG and INV clock outputs for each sequencer!
No clips but this has kept me up all night.

Sweet mother of mercy. Please record something in this setup, I still have at least a week to wait for my DK.

chrisdermo wrote: Sweet mother of mercy. Please record something in this setup, I still have at least a week to wait for my DK.

Did and done it The first barre/slider is the clock.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJY4Ep6VvHY[/youtube]

chrisdermo wrote:

I recorded another take of the Tetrax clocking the Double Knot. This time I patched all four Tetrax oscillators together via their Glitch inputs, then patched all of the barres press/release into the Glitch inputs too, so I was modulating the clock by playing the barres! Patched the Double Knot's R2R and Envelopers into the Tetrax's main pitch/chaos inputs. First take i had it dialed in just sooo, and only play the barres for the most part. Second take mess around with the knobs/sliders too.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72SZUl88g9A[/youtube]

YYYYEAAAAAHHHHH
P.s. I like that these demos are in stereo, I think the two channel nature of the CL stuff, and now the double knot, is a massively important step forward in musical instruments. We've had stereo listening set ups for how many decades now? It kinda baffles me that beyond the usual 'spread' and stereo reverb effects there are still so few electronic instruments that allow let alone encourage completely separate sound generation in each channel.