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Well that escalated.

Don't be assholes dudes.
The only rule at ilf.

Reread your posts and make sure that you're happy with them considering that one rule.

There is a block button - if you two get under each other's skin enough just block each other.

I love how disappointed the dinosaur is.

Also there is a form factor to consider besides sound. Sliders vs knobs. I personally prefer sliders on synths. Hence why I think I was drawn to ARPS over Moogs from day 1. Not a sound preference. Just a simple form factor.

You can get an MS-20 mini for cheap now too, so there is another option. For the street price, that has to be one of the most unanimously loved synths. I personally get a lot out of that synth and it helped with some of my GAS and I think continues to save me money.

Or, you could get a Shruthi as I'm told those knock most monos out of the water especially for the price. Especially, especially for the price of you build your own.

Please excuse my tangent. Trying to be helpful.

echorec wrote: I come to this board to read gear news and to share Web links. That's it. ---I don't come here to read people's current book lists or to see the incredibly painful attempts at childish humor.

Would you say that you're not here to be chummy or chatty?

$harkToootth wrote:I love how disappointed the dinosaur is.

Also there is a form factor to consider besides sound. Sliders vs knobs. I personally prefer sliders on synths. Hence why I think I was drawn to ARPS over Moogs from day 1. Not a sound preference. Just a simple form factor.

You can get an MS-20 mini for cheap now too, so there is another option. For the street price, that has to be one of the most unanimously loved synths. I personally get a lot out of that synth and it helped with some of my GAS and I think continues to save me money.

Or, you could get a Shruthi as I'm told those knock most monos out of the water especially for the price. Especially, especially for the price of you build your own.

Please excuse my tangent. Trying to be helpful.

I love the ms-20 mini ... but it's not a grab and go synth - the form is awesome but not "user friendly"

friendship wrote:

echorec wrote: I come to this board to read gear news and to share Web links. That's it. ---I don't come here to read people's current book lists or to see the incredibly painful attempts at childish humor.

Would you say that you're not here to be chummy or chatty?

friendship wrote:

echorec wrote: I come to this board to read gear news and to share Web links. That's it. ---I don't come here to read people's current book lists or to see the incredibly painful attempts at childish humor.

Would you say that you're not here to be chummy or chatty?

Hahaha. I remember that sig/comment, too. (here's my lengthy response, that you probably weren't soliciting) Every board has its own culture and its own unspoken rules. This board has a culture and a set of unofficial rules, that I don't really find agreeable. I would say that I initially came to this board with higher expectations for conversations that were more stimulating and more entertaining, but the culture/unwritten code of this board doesn't really allow for that. My own humor is surreal or often dry & dark----that doesn't necessarily translate to the internet, because you can't change your voice inflection or filter a joke through a silly voice. Physical comedy does not work in black & white text---so quirky gestures and exaggerated speech must rest on the shelf (until GIFs with sound become our new mode of communication?).

As far as the board, there are two things that severely hinder my own enjoyment.

Examples: #1 general hypocrisy & nepotism (a universal problem, not something exclusive to this board)---poster A will tell someone to stay on topic, but when we have entire threads on the board that take multi-page detours, then nothing gets set said to other posters. that annoys me, because to see someone (or myself) singled out for something that dozens of other posters do on a far more frequent basis, it underlines favoritism and pettiness. That's one example. There are a handful of scenarios I see on a weekly basis, where people call others out for stuff, which they deliberately ignore from their favorites.

#2 this fucking high school bullshit of it's cool to care, but it's not cool to care too much----IRL example: it's cool to be in a band, but it's not cool to be a virtuoso---that would require too much commitment, too much effort----and this board definitely has a lot of that mentality going on----it's cool to lust over gear, but it's not acceptable to care too much. I don't know if that's insecurity, jealousy, or a desire to embrace mediocrity, but it's annoying that on a dedicated gear forum, several posters are always trying to lower the bar with this faux punk rock wannabe bullshit, where everything has to be watered down, or else it will take on a life of its own. For people who want to act like they're into experimentation and trying new things, there's definitely a lot of calculated cynicism & negativity---tearing things down for the sake of control----this half-assed poseur bullshit where one's passions must be tightly regulated. (and it's certainly not everyone, but on a board where people don't want to rock the boat, it only takes a handful to maintain a trend)

As long as people are trying to protect and nurture the status quo, then it limits how much substance or depth the board's discussions can have. ---I see it every week. People ignore the funniest, the most creative, and the most controversial comments---but then they obsess and nitpick the most pedantic, trivial and unspectacular throwaway comments---rhetorical sentiments & things of that nature. That shit irritates the fuck out of me. The good stuff gets ignored and forgotten, but the most mundane stuff monopolizes the spotlight.

Jere, I'm curious as to how you're co-opting your synth farm.

1) Are you using an iOS device for the iVCS3 or the Moog 15 apps?

2) Do you have a MIDI splitter for layering/chaining?

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MIDIthru4

3) What kinds of sounds are you coaxing out of the CTK? I looked at that several times last year---for $199 it seems like a lot of sounds. Any banks/types that stand out or work well with effects? The drawback seemed to be the menu (I hate menu diving, and I also feared many of the sounds would be overly sharp and digital, so they would cut right through stompboxes.)

4) What are you playing? ---Soundscapes, Krautrock, film scores, general non-genre experimentation?

echorec wrote:Period.

Teeheehee.


NSFW reply to echorec, in order to not clog up the thread.

I've been enjoying your posts (not that you care).

Also, your avatar is on a DETERGE tape and I've always wondered what the fuck that is? Can you explain please? If not, no worries and best wishes.

Eivind August wrote:But ugh, we don't have to have this discussion. As gor suggested, you could just block each other (although that always struck me as a weird, stubborn ass thing to do; "I disagree with you, so I choose to stick my head in the sand rather than hear you out.").

And stuff. You bring some knowledge to certain threads on here, so I'd be sad to see you leave. [/nsfw]

I agree. I've always said to myself that the day I start blocking people on a forum will be the day, that I leave that board. If people are bothering you that much, then it's time to move on.

I don't like people in general, and I don't have a tribe, so it gets frustrating sometimes/all the time, but it won't be a big deal when I move on. I'm just another shitty poster in a big ocean of shitty posters. *self-deprecating humor alert*

$harkToootth wrote:I've been enjoying your posts (not that you care).

Also, your avatar is on a DETERGE tape and I've always wondered what the fuck that is? Can you explain please? If not, no worries and best wishes.

My avatar? It's a lab photo of blood harvesting. Hahaha.

The horseshoe crab produces bright blue blood, and scientists have been studying it, in the hopes of advancing disease prevention/control.

http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/a ... st/284078/

http://www.npr.org/sections/krulwich/20 ... od-is-blue

Brother! Thank you! That is one of my favorite "educational power electronics" tapes and that image was part of the collage insert. Always wondered what it was. Thanks so much!

echorec wrote:Jere, I'm curious as to how you're co-opting your synth farm.

1) Are you using an iOS device for the iVCS3 or the Moog 15 apps?

2) Do you have a MIDI splitter for layering/chaining?

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MIDIthru4

3) What kinds of sounds are you coaxing out of the CTK? I looked at that several times last year---for $199 it seems like a lot of sounds. Any banks/types that stand out or work well with effects? The drawback seemed to be the menu (I hate menu diving, and I also feared many of the sounds would be overly sharp and digital, so they would cut right through stompboxes.)

4) What are you playing? ---Soundscapes, Krautrock, film scores, general non-genre experimentation?

1. No
2. No but I've explored them and have them on my "wish list"
3. Honestly, I tested it to see if it works and explored navigating it - I wanted a lot of sounds on the go and on the cheap - I really was impressed by it - I want it to be my go-to when I need "that sound" right now
4. I play guitar seriously but see synths as noise-making toys right now - I want to be able to start from scratch "init" and creat "that sound" - for example I have created a poor man's "running up that hill" patch on the dx but I'm still working on it - every day I put in my 15-30 min/day of tweaking/reading the more oscillators/adsrs/envelopes/waves make sense. In fact I'm very interested in the math of waves (Fourier analysis) after so much tweaking - my fantasy is to craft something like oneohtrix point never's Replica (hence the ju-06) or Vangelis's blade runner (again, said it was a fantasy) - but ultimately I think synths are helping me understand sound/music

JereFuzz wrote: 4. I play guitar seriously but see synths as noise-making toys right now - I want to be able to start from scratch "init" and creat "that sound" - for example I have created a poor man's "running up that hill" patch on the dx but I'm still working on it - every day I put in my 15-30 min/day of tweaking/reading the more oscillators/adsrs/envelopes/waves make sense. In fact I'm very interested in the math of waves (Fourier analysis) after so much tweaking - my fantasy is to craft something like oneohtrix point never's Replica (hence the ju-06) or Vangelis's blade runner (again, said it was a fantasy) - but ultimately I think synths are helping me understand sound/music

Maybe you should put off getting another synth, til you've explored the depth of the plethora you already have? We all gas, but sometimes gas gets in the way of truly getting to know your gear.

Maybe you can wait and get the BFF from Malekko and Harvestman. It has a wavetable oscillator, analogue filter and sequencer.