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coupleonapkins wrote: Still my favorite pedal, even though I don't own one currently - however, like most of the things I'd want to be reissued, it's the layout & ergonomics of the thing that is so pleasing to me, let alone what it can do within its limitations (so good!). Big boxes are so passé in the true bypass era of pedaltrains & nanoboards that I don't even think it would ever stand a chance. But along with a Big Muff or Rat & a volume knob, most people probably wouldn't need anything else on the floor (well.....maaaaaaybe a Judder ).

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echorec wrote:There aren't many pedals I want to see reissued, because I like them being esoteric and difficult to come by.

That's how I feel. If you don't like it, piss off.

I don't like it. It's a very bourgeois and entitled attitude.

I didn't say anything about economics or deliberately denying people from gear, but some things are rare because they're only truly appreciated by the eccentric. Therefore certain items remain sacred only to those who are truly passionate about the obscure and are willing to dedicate the necessary effort to investigate a particular discipline. That's not anti-Marxist; it's romantic and sentimental. One who treasures the esoteric due to a lifetime of exploration is not to blame for another's nescience.

It's inherently fascist to deny someone something because you don't think they should have it. And it's incredibly bourgeois to praise something because it's exclusive to those who can afford it.

echorec wrote: There's nothing fascist in suggesting that the eccentric love the obscure more than the general public. That's a social observation, not a comment on economic policies or theories. Again, I'll point out for you that there's nothing in the quoted passage which advocates denying anyone anything. I didn't praise anything for being desirable due to is scarcity either. It really makes for an unpleasant exchange, when one party only wants to attack his own unsubstantiated conclusions.

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echorec wrote: There's nothing fascist in suggesting that the eccentric love the obscure more than the general public. That's a social observation, not a comment on economic policies or theories. Again, I'll point out for you that there's nothing in the quoted passage which advocates denying anyone anything. I didn't praise anything for being desirable due to is scarcity either. It really makes for an unpleasant exchange, when one party only wants to attack his own unsubstantiated conclusions.

I've been very consistent, so, I could hardly be said to be arguing against myself. Also, I'm not the one who posted in praise of keeping pedals restricted, in a thread who's intent is the exact opposite.

goroth wrote:Something being esoteric and something being scarce are not the same thing. I have no way of appreciating a vintage big box dmm because there is no way I'm going to be in a position to drop that much cash on a delay. That has literally nothing to do with my ability to appreciate an obscure pedal. It's just plain economics.

aholidayatthesea wrote:I can't really afford much collectable music gear, so I'm always interested in prices getting cheaper for things I want.

At the same time, I like to have unique gear. That's part of why I like ILF over TGP - I find out about smaller builders and cool gear I hadn't known about. It's cool when someone sees your setup/hears you play and says "what is that??" or "how did you get that crazy sound?"

Maybe it's the hipster in me, but I prefer to have gear that isn't as popular and used by a bunch of people. I could understand the frustration of being one of the first guys to use a weird /cool vintage effect, with all its imperfections and fragility, only to see it be reissued and see a million other guitarists now using that same effect that you had worked so hard for and spent so much time trying to get.

rustywire wrote: Just look at how many different overpriced TS-style pedals ...