Re: Where do we stand on Billy Corgan? //hivemind
Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 12:30 am

I watched a couple, and yeah, I love how he seems like he really isn't totally sure what hes doing. Didn't look thru comments to see him replying tho.casecandy wrote:Oh, yes... he is (not very) familiar with the ancient Germanic pagan magick known simply as "Windows Movie Maker."Swordfishtrombone wrote:And holy shit, I didn't know Varg is a vlogger now.subb'd
Even better, he actively comments and responds to comments on his YouTube channel.
Like... Michael Jackson hears that and he doesn't even think about it. He makes popcorn.
Seriously people, stop saying bullshit like that. This guy is a fucking neo-nazi, he's the opposite of fun. He deserves no attention from anybody at all, let him rot somewhere all by himself (though prison would be better for him).Blackened Soul wrote:I am not a big fan of Varg at all but... I find the shit he says less dumb than Billy but more fun... [although I agree 100% with rfurtkamp about Billy]
Implying SJWs and *actual bigoted people* are mutually exclusivesnipelfritz wrote:If he was a boob, I'd like him.
But what casecandy says echoes my thoughts on political correctness. If SJWs are a bigger part of your life compared to actually bigoted people, you live a blessed life and should stop being the little bitch you accuse others of being.
oh boy. haha.popvulture wrote:Let's all just watch this again.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryYcyt8FPlg[/youtube]
casecandy wrote:
"Maybe purity that demands exclusion isn't real purity. Maybe paradise is a lie."
Both Jeff Winger quotes
I'm not a fan of censorship either. I'd rather live a life where I'm making something and people are paying enough attention to it to get pissed off rather than stuck in a small town around people who tell you racist jokes that make you uncomfortable and you have to smile and nod.rustywire wrote:Implying SJWs and *actual bigoted people* are mutually exclusivesnipelfritz wrote:If he was a boob, I'd like him.
But what casecandy says echoes my thoughts on political correctness. If SJWs are a bigger part of your life compared to actually bigoted people, you live a blessed life and should stop being the little bitch you accuse others of being.
I agree with your advice though... [w/r/t blessed life in the west] but why doesn't it apply to SJWs who try to ban and censor everything *problematic* like cartoon butts in video games?
Just going to repost this.oscillateur wrote:Seriously people, stop saying bullshit like that. This guy is a fucking neo-nazi, he's the opposite of fun. He deserves no attention from anybody at all, let him rot somewhere all by himself (though prison would be better for him).Blackened Soul wrote:I am not a big fan of Varg at all but... I find the shit he says less dumb than Billy but more fun... [although I agree 100% with rfurtkamp about Billy]
Corgan is definitely a delusional moron but he's still underneath people like that on the global scale of awefulness (if that's even a word).
People who say things like "people who see sexism/racism everywhere" as if there wasn't actually racism and sexism everywhere are usually the worst racists/sexists, actually.rustywire wrote: People who see sexism everywhere are typically the worst sexists.
People who see racism everywhere are typically the worst racists.
Put another way, how many people own a copy of Lovecraft's stories? Virtually everyone who maintains a personal library and has an interest in horror and fantasy, literally tens of millions of people. How many of them are Nazis? How many of them are not? How many of them are people of colour? How many of them, POC or otherwise, are actively involved in struggles against racism? Now, there are differences here. Lovecraft is dead. And he didn't actively promote racism. But it was integral to his work. You have to take the baby and the bathwater; you cannot throw the latter without retaining the first, in his case. And most people choose to do just that.Part of the problem with Burzum is that the issues surrounding the artist are often reduced to a choice between absolute anti-racist rejectionism and apolitical "It's only music"'-ism. I reject that choice. Burzum's work is simply too interesting musically to be dismissed outright but Vikernes's views are too much a part of his work to be simply ignored. What Burzum requires is active, critical listening that goes alongside an active, critical political imagination.
The issue gets even more complicated when you think through the implications of this: does the practice I suggest apply to all artists? Could Skrewdriver for example be listened to in this way? I would argue that Burzum is much more artistically important than Skrewdriver but pinning down exactly why is very difficult.
Dude, it was a post on his personal blog. A quick Google of his name will show that he's a serious sociologist of metal music. Forgive his flippancy in a work that probably his mom and significant other were reading at the time.D.o.S. wrote:'Burzum's [music] is too interesting musically'.
That's some deep analysis right there. I trust this guy. Especially since he's decided to go by "the metal jew."