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To answer OP's question, yes, it is possible to make rap-rock not shitty. Although I'd agree with other commentators in this thread, that it's more likely to be rap-prog-jazz-folk-etc. than rap-rock in the Limp Bizkit, or even the RATM, vein. For example, Buck 65, Kanye West (2010-present), Death Grips, The Roots, Odd Future (more as time goes on, i.e. straight-up noise songs on Cherry Bomb), Odd Future and Ghostface's collaborations with Badbadnotgood, Gorillaz, Hoodie Allen, Kid Cudi, even Kendrick Lamar. All that stuff genre-mashes.

IMHO, that where music is headed, much less rigid genre boundaries overall. I don't know what other people mean when they say "future music" (I suspect everyone means something different) but to me, that's what it means, the shedding of genre boxes.

lordgalvar wrote:Just because Invisible Man expects me to type it:

Crass.

Mwahaha! Thank you.

But the question is: what would happen if Crass used ring mods?



(My poking fun at you is in no way a criticism. You just have integrity/consistency, and it makes me happy.)

Quarashi was alright I guess.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61iMkCN5oEg[/youtube]

Invisible Man wrote:

lordgalvar wrote:Just because Invisible Man expects me to type it:

Crass.

Mwahaha! Thank you.

But the question is: what would happen if Crass used ring mods?



(My poking fun at you is in no way a criticism. You just have integrity/consistency, and it makes me happy.)

Crass with ring mods woulda been great. LG has spectacular taste.

As far as rap rock, someone already mentioned Public Enemy w/ Anthrax, and Beastie Boys, so i'm out. Death Grips is a great idea, don't always love it. Other people been doing that industrial hip hop thing too, it's cool.

I feel like it's two genres that usually sound awkward when shoehorned together. Like hip-hop, good rapping is ideally pretty hip, (I feel uncool just writing that) so why would you then bring the most lame old uncle metal riffing and stuff into the mix? I mean, there are instances where it works, but I think that's when it doesn't sound like just a rock band with a rapper.

but this was cool:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHRHyq26Mpg[/youtube]

Dälek did that industrial/noisy guitar-sampling hip-hop perfectly.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQQZi-MhF7Q[/youtube]

yo here's some (Northern) Norwegian rap-rock, as an example of the bad.. Tungtvann do have some bangers tho.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHdmGGVKtXU[/youtube]

..and also!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFFWF1DnZKM[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ5kCp8MbBE[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbiioBFkD_Q[/youtube]

SPACERITUAL wrote:Quarashi was alright I guess.

Derivative of the Beastie Boys, but alright nonetheless. That song in Amplitude was a real banger!

Rap and rock can jam together, rap-rock the genre? Fuck you for even thinking about it. Altough Wes Borland is fucking awesome.

Ive been wanting to make a mathrock/postrock & trip-hop/hip-hop thing for ages, but badbadnotgood and Ghostface stole my lightning.

Inconuucl wrote:Ive been wanting to make a mathrock/postrock & trip-hop/hip-hop thing for ages, but badbadnotgood and Ghostface stole my lightning.

Lol, i know that feel, but i'm still gonna go for it with a friend of mine.

I really liked The White Mandingos record, and I'd say that falls under this umbrella?

Inconuucl wrote:Wes Borland is fucking awesome.

QFT

[youtube]http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LEE5_yfNbFg[/youtube]
Oops you said NOT shitty. Whatever I'm a sucker for slayer samples.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PmMBHr4wTs[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KZHGAiB7Ww[/youtube]

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