Kanye West vs. Bob Ezrin - Best Kanye Beef Of 2016 IMO

[repoman]

Is the dude with $7 the internet?

Why does that guys shoes have both zippers and laces?

[Mudfuzz]

Is the dude with $7 the internet?

but I'd rather hear an album from him

[Dungus]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BB2PAgkSFRC/

[rustywire]

Even if Kanye is -50mil in the red, he aint strugglin.
Last week I read Kim's so-called *video game* generates over 700k in microtransactions PER DAY.
Somehow KK parlayed a *leaked* sex tape into 700k+ a day from vidya alone.
Sounds like the kind of clickbait banner you would have seen atop a myspace page.
If they were to divorce, she would likely have to pay him alimony

Only in America.

[Invisible Man]

1) Thanks, CC, for a 'best of' thread.
2) I don't get Kanye at all. Can someone explain? I don't hear anything worth listening to, but I'm willing to try, and to hear what others do.
3) Can you really be as 'talented' as people say he his and also be as big an asshole as he appears to be? I mean, I get that the two are not mutually exclusive, but dude makes a living from introspection (and 'beats), yet seems to have no idea what the world is like, or what a human being is.

[D.o.S.]

Even if Kanye is -50mil in the red, he aint strugglin.
Last week I read Kim's so-called *video game* generates over 700k in microtransactions PER DAY.
Somehow KK parlayed a *leaked* sex tape into 700k+ a day from vidya alone.
Sounds like the kind of clickbait banner you would have seen atop a myspace page.
If they were to divorce, she would likely have to pay him alimony

Only in America.

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[casecandy]

Can you really be as 'talented' as people say he his and also be as big an asshole as he appears to be? I mean, I get that the two are not mutually exclusive, but dude makes a living from introspection (and 'beats), yet seems to have no idea what the world is like, or what a human being is.

Relevant:

"I think it’s okay if an artist is an asshole to some extent (I have a hard time excusing racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, etc, of course, but am okay with someone being crotchety). They don’t owe you anything other than their art. Hell, I’d rather an artist was an asshole than a Scientologist. But that’s why I never really want to meet most of my heroes. I’d rather not know them personally and just enjoy whatever it is about their art that speaks to me.”
— Laura Jane Grace (singer/guitarist of Against Me!)

But honestly my take on it is, nobody looks good under a microscope. I'm not clueless or racist or an asshole in real life, but people on ILF think I am, because I don't have a filter, and people QFT remarkably fast! Have you ever said something as stupid as "I'm a creative genius" or "George Bush doesn't care about black people" in private or with close friends? Imagine if the entire country was watching. I bet you he's not that big of an asshole when you're making music with him, or, say, his wife and child.

[Invisible Man]

nahnahnah I asked the question badly. Let me rephrase:

He seems like a huge dumbass. Forget about personal politics. People say he's a genius. His only talent (so far as I can tell) is for self-promotion, which is why he and KK are such an amazingly interesting couple (it is her only talent, too, I mean). Is there something else there? What is it?

[casecandy]

So much else! Do you want me to get into it? Or take my word for it?

One thing, he's a god-tier producer. Only a handful of people can compete with him (Nujabes, J Dilla, Buck 65, off the top of my head).

[kbit]

Honestly I would be stoked on an album of Kanye sans rapping. The first track on this album is rad (and is one of the only tracks I've heard).

[casecandy]

Honestly I would be stoked on an album of Kanye sans rapping. The first track on this album is rad (and is one of the only tracks I've heard).

Best Chance The Rapper verse ever. Better than anything off of his own albums.

This is my part, nobody else speak

[infamousalien]

1) Thanks, CC, for a 'best of' thread.
2) I don't get Kanye at all. Can someone explain? I don't hear anything worth listening to, but I'm willing to try, and to hear what others do.
3) Can you really be as 'talented' as people say he his and also be as big an asshole as he appears to be? I mean, I get that the two are not mutually exclusive, but dude makes a living from introspection (and 'beats), yet seems to have no idea what the world is like, or what a human being is.

Kanye is a better producer than rapper. Remember in the early 00's when all those rap songs featured old soul/motown vocal samples? That was him. His last album Yeezus was interesting for me. The first five tracks don't even have a snare drum on them. Lots of noisy and distorted synths. He sampled some krautrock bands and King Crimson too. His lyrics can get dumb and cheesy for sure. I don't think he's a genius or anything either but he's got some talent.

Defending Beyonce and Kanye in a two week period. Never though I'd be doing that. Thanks ILF! haha.

[casecandy]

Remember in the early 00's when all those rap songs featured old soul/motown vocal samples? That was him.

+1. He pretty much invented the pitched-up Motown sample thing that's become ubiquitous in modern rap sampling.

Also, he was one of a few 2000s artists (Imogen Heap, Bon Iver) who began to use autotune as an instrument, rather than as pitch correction. This is now beyond ubiquitous to the point of overuse, but when he released 808s and Heartbreak, it wasn't like anything else I'd heard before.

He's stated many times that he prefers listening to rock music over rap, and his samples attest to it; a lot of prog, kraut, and psych on every album, all very well used, too.

One of the best uses of fuzz on vocals ever on "Runaway."

I do think he's a genius, for sure.

[Dungus]

Remember in the early 00's when all those rap songs featured old soul/motown vocal samples? That was him.

+1. He pretty much invented the pitched-up Motown sample thing that's become ubiquitous in modern rap sampling.

Also, he was one of a few 2000s artists (Imogen Heap, Bon Iver) who began to use autotune as an instrument, rather than as pitch correction. This is now beyond ubiquitous to the point of overuse, but when he released 808s and Heartbreak, it wasn't like anything else I'd heard before.

He's stated many times that he prefers listening to rock music over rap, and his samples attest to it; a lot of prog, kraut, and psych on every album, all very well used, too.

One of the best uses of fuzz on vocals ever on "Runaway."

I do think he's a genius, for sure.

I wonder if Kim Kardashian listens to Kraut-rock. I wonder what they talk about.

[D.o.S.]

Also worth noting that, you know, T-Pain's autotune abuse was a thing prior to 808 (and that's just radio stuff but CC is all about that surface level so we'll leave it there). And Kid Cudi is more or less responsible for all of 808's sound, but you know, genius is measured solely around which records CC heard first:

This is now beyond ubiquitous to the point of overuse, but when he released 808s and Heartbreak, it wasn't like anything else I'd heard before.

Note the pronoun.